But what if I want to script moving objects around? It looks like I can’t do that in Presentation mode?

So is there some compromise where I can only show some objects but also script moving them around? Like in this patch, I only want the comment and the number box to appear.

{
“boxes” : [ {
"box" : {
"maxclass" : "number",
"numinlets" : 1,
"patching_rect" : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 2,
“presentation” : 1,
“id” : “obj-19″,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“outlettype” : [ "int", "bang" ],
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“presentation_rect” : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ]
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “message”,
“text” : “script move moveme $1 50″,
“numinlets” : 2,
“patching_rect” : [ 28.0, 91.0, 155.0, 18.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 1,
“id” : “obj-18″,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“outlettype” : [ "" ],
“fontsize” : 12.0
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “comment”,
“varname” : “moveme”,
“text” : “Move me!”,
“numinlets” : 1,
“patching_rect” : [ 47.0, 50.0, 86.0, 20.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 0,
“presentation” : 1,
“id” : “obj-12″,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“presentation_rect” : [ 40.0, 50.0, 86.0, 20.0 ]
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “newobj”,
“text” : “thispatcher”,
“numinlets” : 1,
“patching_rect” : [ 28.0, 142.0, 69.0, 20.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 2,
“id” : “obj-11″,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“outlettype” : [ "", "" ],
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“save” : [ "#N", "thispatcher", ";", "#Q", "end", ";" ]
}

}
],
“lines” : [ {
"patchline" : {
"source" : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-11", 0 ],
“hidden” : 0,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
, {
“patchline” : {
“source” : [ "obj-19", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“hidden” : 0,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
]
}

Still curious about scripting limitations in presentation mode.

sure you can. it’s under object in the menu, it’s in the inspector for
each object under the appearance tab, or send a “hidden 1″ message to
the object. All three will hide without needing to be in presentation
mode.

HTH,
David

Sure you can.

{
“boxes” : [ {
"box" : {
"maxclass" : "number",
"fontsize" : 12.0,
"id" : "obj-19",
"presentation_rect" : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ],
“numinlets” : 1,
“numoutlets” : 2,
“patching_rect” : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ],
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“presentation” : 1,
“outlettype” : [ "int", "bang" ]
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “message”,
“text” : “script move moveme $1 50″,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“id” : “obj-18″,
“numinlets” : 2,
“hidden” : 1,
“numoutlets” : 1,
“patching_rect” : [ 28.0, 91.0, 155.0, 18.0 ],
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“outlettype” : [ "" ]
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “comment”,
“varname” : “moveme”,
“text” : “Move me!”,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“id” : “obj-12″,
“presentation_rect” : [ 40.0, 50.0, 86.0, 20.0 ],
“numinlets” : 1,
“numoutlets” : 0,
“patching_rect” : [ 78.0, 50.0, 86.0, 20.0 ],
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“presentation” : 1
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “newobj”,
“text” : “thispatcher”,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“id” : “obj-11″,
“numinlets” : 1,
“hidden” : 1,
“numoutlets” : 2,
“patching_rect” : [ 28.0, 142.0, 69.0, 20.0 ],
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“outlettype” : [ "", "" ],
“save” : [ "#N", "thispatcher", ";", "#Q", "end", ";" ]
}

}
],
“lines” : [ {
"patchline" : {
"source" : [ "obj-19", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“hidden” : 1,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
, {
“patchline” : {
“source” : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-11", 0 ],
“hidden” : 1,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
]
}

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com

http://www.xfade.com

It was the classic “it moved from the spot I was used to and now I can’t find it” issue. Not nearly as bad as the latest version of Microsoft Office though ;)

> But what if I want to script moving objects around? It looks like I
> can’t do that in Presentation mode?

You don’t even need scripting for that. Sending the
presentation_position message just work fine.

HTH,
ej

{
“boxes” : [ {
"box" : {
"maxclass" : "number",
"fontname" : "Arial",
"numinlets" : 1,
"presentation_rect" : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 2,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“patching_rect” : [ 26.0, 14.0, 50.0, 20.0 ],
“outlettype” : [ "int", "bang" ],
“presentation” : 1,
“id” : “obj-19″
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “message”,
“text” : “presentation_position $1 50″,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“numinlets” : 2,
“numoutlets” : 1,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“patching_rect” : [ 26.0, 60.0, 158.0, 18.0 ],
“outlettype” : [ "" ],
“id” : “obj-18″
}

}
, {
“box” : {
“maxclass” : “comment”,
“varname” : “moveme”,
“text” : “Move me!”,
“fontname” : “Arial”,
“numinlets” : 1,
“presentation_rect” : [ 8.0, 50.0, 86.0, 20.0 ],
“numoutlets” : 0,
“fontsize” : 12.0,
“patching_rect” : [ 26.0, 92.0, 86.0, 20.0 ],
“presentation” : 1,
“id” : “obj-12″
}

}
],
“lines” : [ {
"patchline" : {
"source" : [ "obj-19", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“hidden” : 0,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
, {
“patchline” : {
“source” : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
“destination” : [ "obj-12", 0 ],
“hidden” : 0,
“midpoints” : [ ]
}

}
]
}

Got it. And you can drag and drop presentation_position out of the inspector. Much easier than remembering thispatcher syntax. I feel like a newbie again.

On Apr 23, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Adam Murray wrote:

>
> Quote: Emmanuel Jourdan wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 02:52
> —————————————————-
>> On 23 avr. 08, at 09:48, Adam Murray wrote:
>>
>>> But what if I want to script moving objects around? It looks like I
>>> can’t do that in Presentation mode?
>>
>> You don’t even need scripting for that. Sending the
>> presentation_position message just work fine.
>
> Got it. And you can drag and drop presentation_position out of the
> inspector. Much easier than remembering thispatcher syntax. I feel
> like a newbie again.
>
>
> –
> Adam Murray
> compusition.com

HTH,
ej

Just to say that the presentation_position message isn’t documented in the “common box attributes” page. (see http://www.cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/jbox.html)
Is it somewhere else? Is there any other useful attribute undocumented?

Ch.

“patching_position a b” position co-ordinates, patching mode
“presentation_rect c d e f” position and size, presentation mode
“size g h” object size in both modes

I hope this clears things up a bit.

lh

Ch.

I just came across the ‘@fixwidth 0|1′ which can be usefull when scripting. I could not find it in the doc whether it is the common box attributes or in the thispatcher ref pages.

Best,
Julien

lh

Another example that late night patching is no good, I guess… Thanks for the spotlight on this.

Best,
Julien

Have a look at maxinterface.json in the Cycling ’74/interfaces folder. Pretty much everything (is it actually everything?) is there regarding how the menus operate. It’s really enlightening to see how things are set up, a bit abstract since it’s in JSON notation, but if you poke around and compare the listing with what you see in the menus, things will start to make sense… then you can begin customizing.

Specifically, look for “boxcontextmenu” and “multiboxcontextmenu” near the bottom. These are the “right-click” menus when you select an object or multiple objects. You can add Hide on Lock / Show on Lock by adding “hide”, “show” into the list at the point you want. These are identical to those found in the Object menu, and simply adding the commands “hide”, “show” will appear as Hide on Lock — Ctrl+K, Show on Lock — Ctrl+L (on Windows). Very cool. I added it and use it all the time. There’s a bunch of other things I may look into customizing too, I just need to see what things would be nice to have in certain spots.

Note: you have to restart Max to see the changes take effect, as it’s an initialization file.

Note: you should be careful what you do to this file, keep a backup of the original. I’m not sure how badly you could “break” things, but I’m sure there could be some headaches if you mess around too much. So if that happens, you can reload the original and give it the proper filename, and all will be right in your Max world.

you can find the attribute message within the inspector of an object:
If you ctrl-click in the column header, you can select “Attribute” and an additional column appears with the attribute names…

Is there any way to move bpatcher object in presentation mode?
I could not make it work