Cycling 74 » Topic: Trouble with clipping with saws http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/feed Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:12:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-63469 <![CDATA[Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-63469 Mon, 07 May 2012 16:50:24 +0000 iansp Hi,

I think this is probably something mathematical that I don’t get, but why is it that when I have two saw~ objects outputting a frequencies a major third from each other there is this rhythmical clipping? When you up the volume of the saws it seems to recede into the background, but as everything is in the patch when it loads, you’ll hear the major third and also these weird little intermittent clips.

perhaps also it is something to do with my sound card if you don’t hear it.

thanks,
Ian

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228820 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228820 Mon, 07 May 2012 17:21:15 +0000 n00b_meister Hi
You might be experiencing ‘beating’: real oscillations at the frequency of the absolute difference between two frequencies; otherwise, if it is actual distorted clipping then it may be a soundcard issue:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%28acoustics%29

Brendan

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228821 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228821 Mon, 07 May 2012 22:44:16 +0000 iansp I know what you are talking about and hear it regularly in acoustic instruments tuning, but this sounds different, more like little clicks. Did you not hear them? Listening now makes me think you have to wait for a second to really hear them, they’re not obvious..

thanks for the reply anyways!

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228822 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228822 Mon, 07 May 2012 23:20:16 +0000 Roman Thilenius i have not been looking at the patch, but did you do *~ 0.5 before summing?

mind you, 1. + 1. makes 2. …

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228823 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228823 Tue, 08 May 2012 12:10:51 +0000 iansp I tried multiplying them in half and then adding them, but it doesn’t reduce the clips, nor does multiplying them by .2, the quieter they are as a matter of fact, the easier it is to hear the clicks. I hear the beating you’re talking about n00b when the saws’ frequencies are close to each other, but this sounds weirder, more like something unnatural. Perhaps it’s something to do with adding saws, that you get weird combinations at higher frequencies.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228824 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228824 Wed, 09 May 2012 21:59:18 +0000 iansp Could anyone check just to see if they can hear those rather annoying little clicks too? I’m curious if it has something to do with my machine.
thanks

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228825 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228825 Wed, 09 May 2012 22:44:02 +0000 farfisavox How big are your vector sizes? in the audio status (max6) dsp status (max5) window?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228826 <![CDATA[Re: Trouble with clipping with saws]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/trouble-with-clipping-with-saws/#post-228826 Thu, 10 May 2012 08:10:18 +0000 iansp I tried all different I/O and signal vector sizes, none of them make a difference in this case.

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