universal & flexible Sample-Player Objekt: Play vs. groove vs. 2.wave

Oct 9, 2011 at 2:45pm

universal & flexible Sample-Player Objekt: Play vs. groove vs. 2.wave

Hi,

i´m searching for a universal & flexible Sample-Player Object… Which allows following:

- play normaly a wav.- Sample
- dynamicly change speed/sample rate to pich up oder down
- play forward and backwards

I dont want to change for changing usecases always the objact… So i wants directly choose the most flexible Sampling-Object…

What object should i take?

Best,
hgh

#59224
Oct 9, 2011 at 3:27pm

Hi
you refer to three objects in your post title;
your choice is dependent on a few other factors: how large the audio files are; and how extreme the pitch/time stretching is.

I have it on pretty good authority

http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=26110

that for larger files, with more extreme pitch settings [groove~] is preferable to both [play~] and [wave~] as far as accuracy and reliability goes. I personally prefer [play~] driven by a central [phasor~]. For deeper issues, you may want to look into the externals available at maxobjects.com; but I tend to stick to native objects until an issue becomes unsolvable.

I can’t comment on [2dwave~] as I’ve never used it, but search the forum for it and you’ll find helpful hints.

HTH
Brendan

ps here are 2 videos demonstrating some cool stretching techniques; the first is my example, the second uses tapin/tapout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-WJucUMeFs

#212760
Oct 9, 2011 at 5:03pm

I like play~ because if you drive it with line~ you can use the pause and resume messages. Moreover, if you make line~ go from 0. to 1. first and multiply by the endposition later, you can insert a rate~ object in between to change the playback speed and direction in real-time.

However for very long files the sound is not as good as with groove~.

#212761
Oct 9, 2011 at 5:15pm

> However for very long files the sound is not as good as with groove~.

This might improve with the 64-bits resolution in Max 6.

#212762
Oct 9, 2011 at 5:25pm

^ It will :)

#212763

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