Tom Haig

firstly, sorry. I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a fair few problems come up at once.

I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my patch to select an effects chain of their choice. I was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to do this? I've tried selecting a patch from the bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a message. Is this possible?

firstly, sorry.  I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a fair few problems come up at once.
I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my patch to select an effects chain of their choice.  I was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to do this?  I've tried selecting a patch from the bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a message.  Is this possible?
thank you guys
tom


using-a-message-to-change-a-bpatchers-contents-subpatch

script replace message to thispatcher. note that depending on the 

complexity of the to be loaded subpatch, you may stall max

On Oct 30, 2006, at 7:37 PM, register wrote:

> firstly, sorry. I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a 

> I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my patch to select an 

> effects chain of their choice. I was wondering if there's a way to 

> use bpatchers to do this? I've tried selecting a patch from the 

> bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is for the bpatcher 

> to do the same thing though a message. Is this possible?

script replace message to thispatcher. note that depending on the  
complexity of the to be loaded subpatch, you may stall max

>
> firstly, sorry.  I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a  
> fair few problems come up at once.
> I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my patch to select an  
> effects chain of their choice.  I was wondering if there's a way to  
> use bpatchers to do this?  I've tried selecting a patch from the  
> bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is for the bpatcher  
> to do the same thing though a message.  Is this possible?
> thank you guys
> tom


Have a look at Leafcutter John's Framework Project,

which is on the C74/share pages; sounds like you're

> firstly, sorry. I've posted quite a lot recently

> I've just had a fair few problems come up at once.

> I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my

> patch to select an effects chain of their choice. I

> was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to

> do this? I've tried selecting a patch from the

> bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is

> for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a

Have a look at Leafcutter John's Framework Project,
which is on the C74/share pages; sounds like you're
trying to do something pretty similar,
cheers
Roger

>
> firstly, sorry.  I've posted quite a lot recently
> I've just had a fair few problems come up at once.
> I'm trying to use bpatcher to allow users of my
> patch to select an effects chain of their choice.  I
> was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to
> do this?  I've tried selecting a patch from the
> bpatcher inspector, however what I really need is
> for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a
> message.  Is this possible?
> thank you guys
> tom
>


excellent, thank you very much... Got it figured out.

One little thing I'm unsure of though, how do I go about making the patch cords that connect the object / bpatcher hidden? Is it included in the script message that replaced the bpatcher?

I'm pretty sure is doable, as I think that that is what's going on in leafcutter john's framework patch.

excellent, thank you very much... Got it figured out.
One little thing I'm unsure of though, how do I go about making the patch cords that connect the object / bpatcher hidden?  Is it included in the script message that replaced the bpatcher?
I'm pretty sure is doable, as I think that that is what's going on in leafcutter john's framework patch.
thanks
tom


> firstly, sorry. I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a

> fair few problems come up at once. I'm trying to use bpatcher to

> allow users of my patch to select an effects chain of their choice.

> I was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to do this? I've

> tried selecting a patch from the bpatcher inspector, however what I

> really need is for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a

Possible, yes. You can find out any method an inspector is using by 

opening it and look for the messages it sends to the object.

But I would not recommend it. If audio is involved it will interupt 

audio for a short moment. The same applies for scripting. You can build 

If you just switch the user interface parts, you can even do it with 

scripting/reloading but then there must not be any audio in the 

bpatcher! You can very effectively pass values with the pattr system...

Another approach would be to create pluggos and put up your chain with 

vst~. You can load a pluggo on the fly without interupting audio...

The only disadvantage, the user interface is always in an extra window...

register wrote:
> firstly, sorry.  I've posted quite a lot recently I've just had a
> fair few problems come up at once. I'm trying to use bpatcher to
> allow users of my patch to select an effects chain of their choice.
> I was wondering if there's a way to use bpatchers to do this?  I've
> tried selecting a patch from the bpatcher inspector, however what I
> really need is for the bpatcher to do the same thing though a
> message.  Is this possible?

Possible, yes. You can find out any method an inspector is using by 
opening it and look for the messages it sends to the object.

But I would not recommend it. If audio is involved it will interupt 
audio for a short moment. The same applies for scripting. You can build 
a "multiple view" bpatcher though.
If you just switch the user interface parts, you can even do it with 
scripting/reloading but then there must not be any audio in the 
bpatcher! You can very effectively pass values with the pattr system...

Another approach would be to create pluggos and put up your chain with 
vst~. You can load a pluggo on the fly without interupting audio...
The only disadvantage, the user interface is always in an extra window...

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using a message to change a bpatcher's contents / subpatch?