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using multiple #1 symbol arguments to pass multiple arguments to abstraction

August 1, 2011 | 11:51 pm

Hi all,

I’m trying to send an abstraction two arguments and I’m having trouble figuring out how to do this.

In Pd, inside an absraction I would put a [receive $1_$2_envsize] and then one level up I would give that abstraction object two arguments, say "table1" and "5". then if I sent a message to [send table1_5_envsize] the receive within that abstraction would receive the value.

In Max, this doesn’t work. it will only allow one symbol argument, e.g. #1_envsize. but it won’t recognize a second #2 after the #1, e.g. #1_#2_envsize.

Does anyone know how to get something like this working?

Many thanks!


August 1, 2011 | 11:54 pm

AHH! I instantly figure it out.

In Max, you have to separate the #1 #2 with a space. So in relation to the Pd example I gave above, #1 #2_envsize would work.


August 2, 2011 | 2:29 am

I believe that any #1 or #2 etc. also needs to be at the beginning of the symbol you’re using, if you’re using a name/symbol. so [send #1_my_value] works (you can replace the #1 with an argument), but [send my_#1_value] won’t. however, you can do more exact substitution trickery with [sprintf].


August 2, 2011 | 3:07 am

Yeah I was mistaken on my fix..

Wow this is killing me! Pd is sooo much better in certain areas – this is one of them.

So if I would like to specify two unique arguments to be passed to an abstraction, I can use sprintf? How would I do that?

Many thanks!


August 3, 2011 | 1:20 am

ok I think I was wrong, just use #1 #2 #3 #4 etc. for multiple arguments in the abstraction, keeping the #1 #2 etc. at the front of symbols (if you use symbols at all). [sprintf] is for formatting messages/symbols and lets you insert elements right into symbols regardless of spaces, which the standard message box won’t allow. I tried

[sprintf #1_my_msg my_#2_msg]

in an abstraction with the arguments 4 and 66, and got

[sprintf 4_my_msg my_#2_msg]

as the result, so again, it didn’t substitute the #2 when it was within a symbol.


August 3, 2011 | 1:42 am

 
"In Max, you have to separate the #1 #2 with a space. So in relation to the Pd example I gave above, #1 #2_envsize would work."
 
yes, but that would end up as
 
list "100 200_envsize"
 
and that might be not what you want.
 
so in case you really need to include 2 arguments-to-patcher in a symbol, you have to
format the symbol after you received the args.
 
 
p.s. re:sprintf: thats the way to go.
 
in the above example you would just concatenate two symbols into one:
 
[loadbang]
[t #1_]   [t #2_envsize]
[zl join]
[sprintf %s%s]

which, btw, would make another nice abstraction itself, if you need that regulary.
 
i dont have maxmsp here now … i think you can also use the right inlet instead of zl join.

-110
 
 
 


August 3, 2011 | 1:48 pm

yep, the right inlet of [sprintf] would be fine, just make sure it gets there before the left ("hot") inlet, which sends out the whole symbol.

Makes sense about the [sprintf], good clarification.


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