Peiman

I may be working on a project soon that requires live video 

sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I 

am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch 

that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be 

tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the 

problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about 

Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback 

with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple 

sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy 

jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free 

tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if 

jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to 

I may be working on a project soon that requires live video  
sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I  
am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch  
that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be  
tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the  
problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about  
digital video processing and sequencing.

Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback  
with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple  
sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy  
jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free  
tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if  
jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to  
trigger and sequence video with jitter?

video-sequencing-jitter-or-not

You could certainly use Processing to play your video:

There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate timing, but probably frame-accurate. I expect there are a number of other solutions.

Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46

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> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video 

> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I 

> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch 

> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be 

> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the 

> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about 

> digital video processing and sequencing.

> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback 

> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple 

> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy 

> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free 

> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if 

> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to 

> trigger and sequence video with jitter?

There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate timing, but probably frame-accurate.  I expect there are a number of other solutions.

Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46
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> Hello All,
>
> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video  
> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I  
> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch  
> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be  
> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the  
> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about  
> digital video processing and sequencing.
>
> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback  
> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple  
> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy  
> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free  
> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if  
> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to  
> trigger and sequence video with jitter?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Peiman 
>
>
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I also use a program called Isadora which is pretty good for video multimedia work. It's not very deep in it's audio capabilities, but i think it's easier to do some things in there than in Max.

I think they have a free demo you can try out, and it's much cheaper than Max, I think it was about $300 (US) which is like 2 euros these days. :)

I also use a program called Isadora which is pretty good for video multimedia work.  It's not very deep in it's audio capabilities, but i think it's easier to do some things in there than in Max.
I think they have a free demo you can try out, and it's much cheaper than Max, I think it was about $300 (US) which is like 2 euros these days.  :)

I will certainly try both options (processing and max's movie objects).

> You could certainly use Processing to play your video:

> There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate 

> timing, but probably frame-accurate. I expect there are a number 

> Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46

> ----------------------------------------------------

>> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video

>> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I

>> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch

>> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be

>> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the

>> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about

>> digital video processing and sequencing.

>> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback

>> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple

>> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy

>> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free

>> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if

>> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to

>> trigger and sequence video with jitter?

> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist

>
> You could certainly use Processing to play your video:
>
> http://www.processing.org/
>
> There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate  
> timing, but probably frame-accurate.  I expect there are a number  
> of other solutions.
>
> mz
>
>
> Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46
> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video
>> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I
>> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch
>> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to be
>> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the
>> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about
>> digital video processing and sequencing.
>>
>> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback
>> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple
>> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy
>> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free
>> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if
>> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to
>> trigger and sequence video with jitter?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance.
>>
>> Peiman
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --
> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist
> || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/
> || http://www.mikezed.com/
>
>
>


Ive used jitter to do sequencing, and with the preroll attribute and 

loadram, with a little work you can get playback of full framesize/ 

rate SD video at FCP quality playback, meaning, no stutters/jumps 

between switching movies. Its pretty cool.

processing can certainly handle the sequencing, but movie playback - 

not so much. Ive tried, and everyone ive spoke to who is doing work 

with video in processing is either doing non realtime rendering, or is 

using another system to play the video back. (meaning, playing back 

movie files, not necessarily generative openGL realtime output -which 

just FYI, not being a hater, just saying :)

On Dec 6, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Peiman Khosravi wrote:

> I will certainly try both options (processing and max's movie 

>> You could certainly use Processing to play your video:

>> There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate 

>> timing, but probably frame-accurate. I expect there are a number 

>> Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46

>> ----------------------------------------------------

>>> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video

>>> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I

>>> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch

>>> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to 

>>> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the

>>> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about

>>> digital video processing and sequencing.

>>> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback

>>> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple

>>> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy

>>> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free

>>> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if

>>> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to

>>> trigger and sequence video with jitter?

Ive used jitter to do sequencing, and with the preroll attribute and  
loadram, with a little work you can get playback of full framesize/ 
rate SD video at FCP quality playback, meaning, no stutters/jumps  
between switching movies. Its pretty cool.

processing can certainly handle the sequencing, but movie playback -  
not so much. Ive tried, and everyone ive spoke to who is doing work  
with video in processing is either doing non realtime rendering, or is  
using another system to play the video back. (meaning, playing back  
movie files, not necessarily generative openGL realtime output -which  
is totally doable).

> Thanks very much for the replies,
>
> I will certainly try both options (processing and max's movie  
> objects).
>
> Best
> Peiman
>
> On 6 Dec 2007, at 19:11, mzed wrote:
>
>>
>> You could certainly use Processing to play your video:
>>
>> http://www.processing.org/
>>
>> There is an OSC library. I wouldn't guarantee sample-accurate  
>> timing, but probably frame-accurate.  I expect there are a number  
>> of other solutions.
>>
>> mz
>>
>>
>> Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 04:46
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I may be working on a project soon that requires live video
>>> sequencing (with different sections triggered by the performers), I
>>> am not designing the sequences my self but need to design a patch
>>> that allows easily manageable programing of sequences. This has to  
>>> be
>>> tempo synched also with a click track so timing is crucial. Now the
>>> problem is that I have never used jitter and I know little about
>>> digital video processing and sequencing.
>>>
>>> Do I need jitter in order to trigger and tempo synch video playback
>>> with max? Since there is no video processing going on (just simple
>>> sequencing but with precise timing) I would rather not have to buy
>>> jitter if it's not necessary. Are there any other, possibly free
>>> tools that with allow this (for example via OSC?). And finally if
>>> jitter is the only way, how difficult would it be to learn how to
>>> trigger and sequence video with jitter?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> --
>> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist
>> || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/
>> || http://www.mikezed.com/
>>
>>
>>
>


video sequencing, (jitter or not?)