Virus TI and Max/MSP

Oct 30, 2007 at 4:27pm

Virus TI and Max/MSP

Hey everybody,

I’m totally new to Max/MSP…as in I haven’t actually downloaded it yet. I’ve been reading the manuals, but I was sort of hoping to wait for 5 before I buy to avoid the confusion of switching.
I’m looking to use Max to build a custom step sequencer to interface my Monome 256 with my Access Virus TI synth.
My concern is the way the Virus handles communication between itself and the TI VST plug-in: it’s fairly non-standard, and I don’t know enough about this stuff to be able to determine if this is something I can do…
I COULD not use the TI plug-in and do things with MIDI, but then I’d need to buy a MIDI interface, instead of using the TI’s USB connection, etc…

So, I tried emailing cycling’74, and Access, to see if anyone had experience with both. Cycling told me to try posting here. Access said:

“Thank you for your mail. Whenever the TI is used in a sequencer via its Total Integration, then the TI
transmits its knob movements in the automation event format of the sequencer it is used in.

Unfortunately we can’t be of much help as we have no experience with Max/MSP at all. It is really
hard to say how you’d have to do this. I really don’t know.”

So, does anyone have any experience with this, or knowledge about how difficult it is to work? (I could use Live as a go-between, since the TI works well with Live…but I think that would present some limitations).

Thanks in advance…

#34383
Oct 30, 2007 at 10:46pm

you’ll have to give some more information i think. what comes out of
the TI VST?
anyway, check out the vst~ object which is not great, but could get
the job done.
i think it will get an upgrade in max 5….

best

isjtar

On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:27 PM, Adam Barnett wrote:

>
> Hey everybody,
>
> I’m totally new to Max/MSP…as in I haven’t actually downloaded it
> yet. I’ve been reading the manuals, but I was sort of hoping to
> wait for 5 before I buy to avoid the confusion of switching.
> I’m looking to use Max to build a custom step sequencer to
> interface my Monome 256 with my Access Virus TI synth.
> My concern is the way the Virus handles communication between
> itself and the TI VST plug-in: it’s fairly non-standard, and I
> don’t know enough about this stuff to be able to determine if this
> is something I can do…
> I COULD not use the TI plug-in and do things with MIDI, but then
> I’d need to buy a MIDI interface, instead of using the TI’s USB
> connection, etc…
>
> So, I tried emailing cycling’74, and Access, to see if anyone had
> experience with both. Cycling told me to try posting here. Access
> said:
>
> “Thank you for your mail. Whenever the TI is used in a sequencer
> via its Total Integration, then the TI
> transmits its knob movements in the automation event format of the
> sequencer it is used in.
>
> Unfortunately we can’t be of much help as we have no experience
> with Max/MSP at all. It is really
> hard to say how you’d have to do this. I really don’t know.”
>
> So, does anyone have any experience with this, or knowledge about
> how difficult it is to work? (I could use Live as a go-between,
> since the TI works well with Live…but I think that would present
> some limitations).
>
> Thanks in advance…

#115893
Oct 30, 2007 at 11:25pm

#115894
Oct 30, 2007 at 11:28pm

#115895
Oct 30, 2007 at 11:39pm

I don’t know what comes out of the Virus TI – that’s the problem, in essence. I just know that the knobs don’t transmit MIDI unless you put it into a particular mode that I want to avoid using. I.E. Turning the filter knob doesn’t send MIDI out, it communicates with the TI plug-in via USB, which updates, and you can set that parameter to record automation with Live…but I’m not sure what kind of data the automation is recorded as.

As per the Access email: “the TI transmits its knob movements in the automation event format of the sequencer it is used in.”

I don’t know, honestly, what that means, or specifically if that means that I won’t be able to get it to communicate with Max directly. I guess I better just download the demo and start messing about…no one seems to have direct experience with the two (that I’ve found, anyway).

#115896
Oct 31, 2007 at 1:01am

the Virus will show 2 midi ports in Max. Virus TI Midi and Virus TI Synth. you can send notes + other midi stuff to the synth by sending out through Max to the TI SYNTH midi port. Convert your OSC stuff into midi inside Max and then send out to your Virus.

here’s a thread with the TI’s cc implementation:

http://virusti.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=350&hl=midi

that’s without using the TI as a plugin at all. just sending midi down the USB pipe. if you wanted to use the plugin, then you get into learning the max/msp VST~ object, which I think, is unnecessary for what you want to do.

jake

#115897
Nov 1, 2007 at 9:50am

Adam Barnett schrieb:
> I was sort of hoping to wait for 5 before I buy to avoid the
> confusion of switching.

Don’t worry, you’ll get a free update to Max 5 and when it comes out
you’re ready to go, as you did all the tutorials already.

> I’m looking to use Max to build a custom step sequencer to interface
> my Monome 256 with my Access Virus TI synth. My concern is the way
> the Virus handles communication between itself and the TI VST
> plug-in: it’s fairly non-standard, and I don’t know enough about this
> stuff to be able to determine if this is something I can do… I
> COULD not use the TI plug-in and do things with MIDI, but then I’d
> need to buy a MIDI interface, instead of using the TI’s USB
> connection, etc…

I guess the TI’s USB connection will be just a Midi interface for your
computer, there should be no difference…

You’ll love Max for what you want to do, but there is a learning curve.
Just get your hands durty and download the trial. After going through
the tutorials, you’ll get all the help you need here.

Sounds like a fun project…

Stefan


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#115898
Nov 1, 2007 at 3:30pm

I wanted to use the USB TI business so I could route the Virus’ audio through some MSP functions…but I guess there are work arounds for that, too.

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