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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: VST parameter compatibility between Max 5 and Max 6</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[VST parameter compatibility between Max 5 and Max 6]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>dhjdhjdhj</dc:creator>

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						<p>I have been trying to use Max 6 for a few months but finally had to give up and go back to Max 5 as I was getting too many intermittent crashes that are not understood.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very grateful that the patchers are all backward compatible and everything I built with 6.x loads just fine into 5.x</p>
<p>However, I found that when I tried to reload fxp files in Max 5 that had been created with Max 6, the VSTs were not configured. It&#8217;s not a huge deal because I was able to just save the VSTs patches themselves and then pull them back in.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m curious as to why that doesn&#8217;t work. The VSTs are identical, there aren&#8217;t extra (or fewer) parameters in them. So what is Max6 doing when it saves an FXP file that is confusing Max5</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: VST parameter compatibility between Max 5 and Max 6]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Andrew Pask</dc:creator>

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						<p>Weird. Does it work right the other way? Can you save a .fxp from 5 and have it open in vst~ in 6? If not, we&#8217;ll need to look at it.</p>
<p>Vst~ in 6 uses the JUCE VST hosting code, which is how vst~ can load AU plugs on Mac. In other words, it&#8217;s an entirely different animal.</p>
<p>-A</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: VST parameter compatibility between Max 5 and Max 6]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>dhjdhjdhj</dc:creator>

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						<p>I don&#8217;t know but I suspect that the JUCE hosting code is what is responsible for many of the crashes that I have experienced with Max 6.</p>
<p>When it breaks (which is quite intermittent), there&#8217;s always JUCE in the middle of the stack trace, either VST or GUI references higher up, and always a critical section at the top where it crashes.</p>
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