wav/aiff to sdif ?

Nov 4, 2006 at 12:17pm

wav/aiff to sdif ?

Is there a way to convert wav/aiff files to sdif files (on win or mac) ?

cheers

f.e


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#28514
Nov 4, 2006 at 12:24pm
#87666
Nov 4, 2006 at 12:33pm

Yeah, i have it already, but since 0.6.3, it doesn’t want to open any
.wav/.aiff files anymore !!!

f.e

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> great app!
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#87667
Nov 4, 2006 at 12:36pm

oops, sorry sorry, .wav won’t open, but .aiff still do. Spear is the boss.

f.e

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Ole Schmidt wrote:
> http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/
>
>
> great app!
>
> ole
>
>

#87668
Nov 4, 2006 at 4:08pm

on mac os classic, spear 063 creates files of type
codewarrior/text when exporting aiff so tha5t they do
not play in most audio apps.
solution: patch the files to filetype AIFC again.

#87669
Nov 6, 2006 at 1:41am

Quote: f.e wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 04:17
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> Is there a way to convert wav/aiff files to sdif files (on win or mac) ?
>
>

I also like SPEAR.

Check out Loris:

http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/

IRCAM AudioSculpt, Diphone (AddAn, ResAn), if you have them.

Um, Armadillo, maybe:

http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/~beaucham/software/armadillo/

This site is old, but interesting:

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/SDIF/ICMC2000/

mz

#87670
Nov 6, 2006 at 8:45am

Loris is still pretty much arcane, unfortunately (i mean when you got
your .tar.gz on your desktop). And Spear is the only other one running
on win. But it’s amazing. The way we can choose a bunch of partials,
extract them and distribute them over the time, stretching, pitching…
Audiosculpt was there before for mac users, and i’m so damned happy we
have spear now. A brand new way to work.

Anyway, a big thank for your tutorials about the CNMAT objects. It’s
precious. But i wonder if you can explain more about storage : majority
of your examples are using coll, not sdif-buffer; as Spear doesn’t give
us a cool coll compatible text format, i will be happy to understand
better how to use the sdif-buffer for all the transformation / filtering
examples you provide. The output mechanism is still a little bit
complicated (for me) and appending a sdif-tuples doesn’t always do the
trick…

cheers

f.e

mzed wrote:
> Quote: f.e wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 04:17
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>> Is there a way to convert wav/aiff files to sdif files (on win or mac) ?
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>>
>>
>
> I also like SPEAR.
>
> Check out Loris:
> http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/
>
> IRCAM AudioSculpt, Diphone (AddAn, ResAn), if you have them.
>
> Um, Armadillo, maybe:
> http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/~beaucham/software/armadillo/
>
> This site is old, but interesting:
> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/SDIF/ICMC2000/
>
> mz
>
>
>
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>
> –
> || michael f. zbyszynski — molecular gastronimist
> || mzed@cnmat.berkeley.edu — +1.510.643.9990×314
> || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/
> || http://www.piratelemur.com/
>
>
>
>
>

#87671
Nov 6, 2006 at 9:28pm

> Anyway, a big thank for your tutorials about the CNMAT objects. It’s
> precious. But i wonder if you can explain more about storage : majority
> of your examples are using coll, not sdif-buffer; as Spear doesn’t give
> us a cool coll compatible text format, i will be happy to understand
> better how to use the sdif-buffer for all the transformation / filtering
> examples you provide. The output mechanism is still a little bit
> complicated (for me) and appending a sdif-tuples doesn’t always do the
> trick…

The good tutorials for this are #23-25. But, certainly, there could be more explanation. If you tell me more about the problems you’re having?

SPEAR outputs sdif files that are similar to the AddAn generated ones in the tutorials, so they should work without much repatching. SDIF-buffer can only find SDIF-file that are in the search path; this is a common problem.

Tutorial #24 deals with sin-synth~, which encapsulates all of the res-transform transformations. I just added some tutorials using “deinterleave” and “interleave” to do some transformation with Max objects. The example is a resonant model, but it’s not to different with sinusoidal models (I’ll make an example…). As I’ve said, managing big lists is a problem in Max.

These tutorials are being constantly expanded, so thanks for your feedback. I hope future versions will be better because of it.

mz

#87672
Nov 13, 2006 at 1:36am

I’m having problems using sdif data rendered with spear. I do not thing it is a spear releated issue though.

I load the sdif daha to a sdif buffer.

Then use SDIF-tuples –> threefates –> sinusoids~

But at some timesegments, threefates complains: input list too big(size x) — dropping

where x is a number bigger then 750 or so…

The sdif file that comes with those excellent cnmat tutorials have no problems. This is a rather new subject for me, I think I know what the problem is but I don’t have a clue about my limits. The cause for this error is too much sinusodial information packed into a time fragment isn’t it? should I render my files with lower fft sizes from spear? What is the possible solution for this?

I was using some complex waves for trying things out. After this problem occured, I used a solo instrument sample. And it still gives errors.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

#87673
Nov 13, 2006 at 2:17am

Ok I think I found a solution. Deleting partials below a certain duration and amplitude makes shorter lists thus threefates object gives no errors. I think this is necessary.

#87674
Nov 15, 2006 at 12:30am

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> But at some timesegments, threefates complains: input list too big(size x) — dropping
>
> where x is a number bigger then 750 or so…
>

threefates is set to a default limit of 256 partials. If you give it an argument, you can do more. Like:

[threefates 1048]

for example.

Older versions will crash with numbers >1200, or so. If you have this problem, get the current (and I believe, fixed) version from the CNMAT downloads page.

mz

#87675
Nov 15, 2006 at 2:13am

Oh thanks! I looked through the help but I think I’ve overlooked it.

#87676
Aug 12, 2012 at 4:08am

is there any way to convert AIF information to SDIF within max itself?

#87677
Aug 16, 2012 at 8:35am

alright, does anyone have a recommendation for someone to contact that might know how write max patch that converts aif to SDIF?

#87678
Aug 18, 2012 at 8:06pm

I don’t know that anybody’s actively involved with that. “SDIF” is broad format that could encompass many different analytical methods, so it isn’t really obvious what you’re looking for. Many of these analysis methods are better in non-realtime, so Max isn’t necessarily a good place to generate results.

There is SDIF-listpoke from CNMAT, although SDIF-buffer doesn’t write.

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