selalou10@yahoo.com

I'm puzzled here. It seems pretty straight forward. The offset message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform ruler to the left however many ms you specify. dragging the waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.

According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very beginning of the waveform display. However, this doesnt work for me.

I'm puzzled here.  It seems pretty straight forward.  The offset message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform ruler to the left however many ms you specify.  dragging the waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.

According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very beginning of the waveform display.   However, this doesnt work for me.

waveform-offset-0-message-not-affecting-ruler

I agree, this is counter-intuitive. I had exactly the same question when I first started using waveform~. The thing is, mouse offset is added to the offset message offset.

Let's make this a feature request / bug report: waveform~'s offset message should control the same ruler offset as the mouse does.

Quote: selalou10@yahoo.com wrote on Fri, 08 June 2007 00:04

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> I'm puzzled here. It seems pretty straight forward. The offset message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform ruler to the left however many ms you specify. dragging the waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.

> According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very beginning of the waveform display. However, this doesnt work for me.

I agree, this is counter-intuitive. I had exactly the same question when I first started using waveform~. The thing is, mouse offset is added to the offset message offset. 

Quote: selalou10@yahoo.com wrote on Fri, 08 June 2007 00:04
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> I'm puzzled here.  It seems pretty straight forward.  The offset message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform ruler to the left however many ms you specify.  dragging the waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.
>
> According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very beginning of the waveform display.   However, this doesnt work for me.
>
> Am i misunderstanding?
>
>
> thanks for the help!
>
>
> -mong
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> I'm puzzled here. It seems pretty straight forward. The offset 

> message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform 

> ruler to the left however many ms you specify. dragging the 

> waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.

> According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." 

> should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very 

> beginning of the waveform display. However, this doesnt work for me.

It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow? 

Otherwise, as you usual, providing more informations like Max 

version, OS, even a patch so we can help you better.

> I'm puzzled here.  It seems pretty straight forward.  The offset  
> message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform  
> ruler to the left however many ms you specify.  dragging the  
> waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.
>
> According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0."  
> should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very  
> beginning of the waveform display.   However, this doesnt work for me.

It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow?  
Otherwise, as you usual, providing more informations like Max  
version, OS, even a patch so we can help you better.

Mattijs- Im with you 100%. its pretty counter intuitive.

Could someone point me in the direction of a work around? Maybe there is no simple fix. I dont know.

ej- I tried your patch. And yes, in your patch, the play head does respond to the offset messages, but it does not affect the alignment of the ruler, as i would like.

Mattijs-  Im with you 100%.  its pretty counter intuitive.

Could someone point me in the direction of a work around?  Maybe there is no simple fix. I dont know.

ej-  I tried your patch.  And yes, in your patch, the play head does respond to the offset messages, but it does not affect the alignment of the ruler, as i would like.

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=9085&rid=0&S=20f6297ab064911e799a697182d1dfa0&srch=waveform+offset#msg_num_4

there's a decent work around posted on the forums that, with a touch here and there can lock the ruler in place at zero when sliding back from right to left.

Works for me... but i'd love to see waveform~ updated to allow a more streamlined way of doing this.

I made a short screen capture that illustrates the problem:

http://www.smadsteck.nl/waveform~_offset.mov

Quote: Emmanuel Jourdan wrote on Fri, 08 June 2007 00:20

> > I'm puzzled here. It seems pretty straight forward. The offset 

> > message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform 

> > ruler to the left however many ms you specify. dragging the 

> > waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.

> > According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0." 

> > should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very 

> > beginning of the waveform display. However, this doesnt work for me.

> It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow? 

> Otherwise, as you usual, providing more informations like Max 

> version, OS, even a patch so we can help you better.

> #P message 327 114 64 196617 offset 1200;

> #P message 256 114 58 196617 offset 300;

> #P newex 173 86 89 196617 loadmess set toto;

> #P newex 33 165 65 196617 buffer~ toto;

> #P message 33 146 104 196617 replace drumLoop.aif;

Quote: Emmanuel Jourdan wrote on Fri, 08 June 2007 00:20
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> On 8 juin 07, at 00:04, seth wrote:
>
> > I'm puzzled here.  It seems pretty straight forward.  The offset  
> > message followed by a float slides the 0 position of the waveform  
> > ruler to the left however many ms you specify.  dragging the  
> > waveform ruler with your mouse gives you the same result.
> >
> > According to the documentation, sending the message "offset 0."  
> > should result in the ruler sliding its 0 marker back to the very  
> > beginning of the waveform display.   However, this doesnt work for me.
>
> It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow?  
> Otherwise, as you usual, providing more informations like Max  
> version, OS, even a patch so we can help you better.
>
> ej
>
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P window linecount 1;
> #P message 188 114 46 196617 offset 0;
> #P message 327 114 64 196617 offset 1200;
> #P message 256 114 58 196617 offset 300;
> #P user waveform~ 173 154 200 74 3 9;
> #W mode select;
> #W mouseoutput continuous;
> #W unit ms;
> #W grid 1000.;
> #W ticks 0;
> #W labels 1;
> #W vlabels 0;
> #W vticks 1;
> #W bpm 120. 4.;
> #W frgb 33 0 0;
> #W brgb 60 178 173;
> #W rgb2 0 95 255;
> #W rgb3 0 0 0;
> #W rgb4 0 0 0;
> #W rgb5 190 137 255;
> #W rgb6 100 100 100;
> #W rgb7 100 100 100;
> #P newex 173 86 89 196617 loadmess set toto;
> #P newex 33 165 65 196617 buffer~ toto;
> #P message 33 146 104 196617 replace drumLoop.aif;
> #P connect 6 0 3 0;
> #P connect 5 0 3 0;
> #P connect 4 0 3 0;
> #P connect 2 0 3 0;
> #P connect 0 0 1 0;
> #P window clipboard copycount 7;
>
>
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> It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow? Otherwise, 

> as you usual, providing more informations like Max version, OS, even a 

Your patch shows the described effect clearly. First change the ruler

with the mouse by draging in the ruler bar for example to the right. Now

click your message boxes, it doesn't go back to the original position...

If you move the ruler with the mouse, and then send the message offset

0., or offset without arguments the expected behaviour would be that the

ruler offset is returned to its original unmoved state.

But nothing happens... Al other offset messages are relative to the

I would consider this a bug and not a feature. If this will be fixed, it

will probably only break the workaround patches...

Because as "feature" is so useless, that its absolutely unthinkable that

anybody would consider to use it as it is... (either you move the offset

Emmanuel Jourdan schrieb:
> It does work for me. Can you confirm with the patch bellow? Otherwise, 
> as you usual, providing more informations like Max version, OS, even a 
> patch so we can help you better.

Your patch shows the described effect clearly. First change the ruler
with the mouse by draging in the ruler bar for example to the right. Now
click your message boxes, it doesn't go back to the original position...

Or in terms of bug reporting guidelines:
If you move the ruler with the mouse, and then send the message offset
0., or offset without arguments the expected behaviour would be that the
ruler offset is returned to its original unmoved state.

But nothing happens... Al other offset messages are relative to the
offset done with the mouse.

I would consider this a bug and not a feature. If this will be fixed, it
will probably only break the workaround patches...
Because as "feature" is so useless, that its absolutely unthinkable that
anybody would consider to use it as it is... (either you move the offset
only with messages or only by hand...)

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waveform~ "offset 0." message not affecting ruler?!