mzed

I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things with waveform~ and running into troubles. Has anybody built something better?

Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis). Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location. I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) position. The label area of the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This is still an issue when edit mode is "none."

Turn the label off maybe? That turns off the grid. And, the grid doesn't come back when you turn the labels back on. (I'm doing this using waveform~.help on Max 4.6.3)

This sounds like a job for a clever jsui. Has anybody already made this and is willing to share?

I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things with waveform~ and running into troubles.  Has anybody built something better?

Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis).  Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location.  I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) position.  The label area of the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This is still an issue when edit mode is "none."

waveform-woes

waveform~ is great on paper, but not so reliable in practice. Time 

for a big overhaul, methinks. Alternatives (js) are non-trivial.

Op 5-dec-2007, om 1:10 heeft mzed het volgende geschreven:

> I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things 

> with waveform~ and running into troubles. Has anybody built 

> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully 

> offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile 

> (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis). 

> Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong 

> location. I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is 

> relative to the current (and unknown) position. The label area of 

> the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This 

> is still an issue when edit mode is "none."

> Turn the label off maybe? That turns off the grid. And, the grid 

> doesn't come back when you turn the labels back on. (I'm doing this 

> This sounds like a job for a clever jsui. Has anybody already made 

> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist

waveform~ is great on paper, but not so reliable in practice. Time  
for a big overhaul, methinks. Alternatives (js) are non-trivial.

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>
> Hi all-
>
> I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things  
> with waveform~ and running into troubles.  Has anybody built  
> something better?
>
> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully  
> offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile  
> (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis).   
> Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong  
> location.  I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is  
> relative to the current (and unknown) position.  The label area of  
> the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This  
> is still an issue when edit mode is "none."
>
> Turn the label off maybe? That turns off the grid. And, the grid  
> doesn't come back when you turn the labels back on. (I'm doing this  
> using waveform~.help on Max 4.6.3)
>
> This sounds like a job for a clever jsui. Has anybody already made  
> this and is willing to share?
>
> mz
>
> --
> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist
> || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/
> || http://www.mikezed.com/
>
>
>


Maybe put the waveform~ in a bpatcher and use offset to hide the label area??

> I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things with waveform~ and running into troubles. Has anybody built something better?

> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis). Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location. I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) position. The label area of the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This is still an issue when edit mode is "none."

> Turn the label off maybe? That turns off the grid. And, the grid doesn't come back when you turn the labels back on. (I'm doing this using waveform~.help on Max 4.6.3)

> This sounds like a job for a clever jsui. Has anybody already made this and is willing to share?

On 05/12/2007, mzed  wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> I have a student who is trying to do seemingly reasonable things with waveform~ and running into troubles.  Has anybody built something better?
>
> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this info is predetermined on a per-file basis).  Unfortunately, the user can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location.  I thought I could make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) position.  The label area of the waveform only reports on mouse down, as far as I can tell. This is still an issue when edit mode is "none."
>
> Turn the label off maybe? That turns off the grid. And, the grid doesn't come back when you turn the labels back on. (I'm doing this using waveform~.help on Max 4.6.3)
>
> This sounds like a job for a clever jsui. Has anybody already made this and is willing to share?
>
> mz
>
> --
> || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist
> || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/
> || http://www.mikezed.com/
>
>
>
>


> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting 

> it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this 

> info is predetermined on a per-file basis). Unfortunately, the user 

> can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location. I thought I could 

> make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) 

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=9117

Am 05.12.2007 um 01:10 schrieb mzed:
> Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting 
> it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this 
> info is predetermined on a per-file basis).  Unfortunately, the user 
> can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location.  I thought I could 
> make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) 
> position.

Quote: grg wrote on Wed, 05 December 2007 09:29

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> > Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting 

> > it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this 

> > info is predetermined on a per-file basis). Unfortunately, the user 

> > can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location. I thought I could 

> > make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) 

Thanks. That is, at once, brilliant and horrifying.

I'll see if I get excited about writing a new one js, or if I just hope for something better in Max 5.

Quote: grg wrote on Wed, 05 December 2007 09:29
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> Am 05.12.2007 um 01:10 schrieb mzed:
> > Specifically, he's setting up a grid of BPM's and carefully offsetting 
> > it to make sure it falls on the beats of the soundfile (all of this 
> > info is predetermined on a per-file basis).  Unfortunately, the user 
> > can drag the labels and grid to the wrong location.  I thought I could 
> > make it snap back, but offset is relative to the current (and unknown) 
> > position.
>
> here is a Max workaround:
>
> https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=9117
>
>

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