milc

With a great motivation, I've started to study Max quite seriously, and now I'm on Tutorial 37.

I've learn a lot, and I understood some concept of Max, but the problem is, that I don't have any fun.

I'm alone to study, and I'm a bit sick of tutorial files.

I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.

Can anyone help me to not to be bored while I continue tutorials?

I mean, is there anything like "tutorial 37 level guy also can understand" patch that does other things than just play chords on the keyboard?

tutorials are great, but since I don't have any interest to play chords all the time, I need some simple patches that does fun thing.

examples comes with Max/MSP are too hard for me, and some patches posted here are way too complicated.

can anyone share some very basic patches that he/she did back in the tutorial days??

I hope that it's not so dumb to post this...

I'm alone to study, and I'm a bit sick of tutorial files.
I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.

Can anyone help me to not to be bored while I continue tutorials?
I mean, is there anything like "tutorial 37 level guy also can understand" patch that does other things than just play chords on the keyboard?

what-to-do-now

My recommendation is to modify the tutorial patches to do something 

you find interesting, and learn how to extend and/or change their 

functionality. You might be surprised to find out how easy it is to 

start doing simple (but interesting) things by slight modifications, 

and then combining the simple things into larger patches.

On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:01 AM, djeho wrote:

> Hi, I'm a newbie and it's my first post.

> With a great motivation, I've started to study Max quite seriously, 

> I've learn a lot, and I understood some concept of Max, but the 

> I'm alone to study, and I'm a bit sick of tutorial files.

> I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even 

> build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.

> Can anyone help me to not to be bored while I continue tutorials?

> I mean, is there anything like "tutorial 37 level guy also can 

> understand" patch that does other things than just play chords on 

> tutorials are great, but since I don't have any interest to play 

> chords all the time, I need some simple patches that does fun thing.

> examples comes with Max/MSP are too hard for me, and some patches 

> can anyone share some very basic patches that he/she did back in 

> I hope that it's not so dumb to post this...

My recommendation is to modify the tutorial patches to do something  
you find interesting, and learn how to extend and/or change their  
functionality. You might be surprised to find out how easy it is to  
start doing simple (but interesting) things by slight modifications,  
and then combining the simple things into larger patches.

>
> Hi, I'm a newbie and it's my first post.
>
> With a great motivation, I've started to study Max quite seriously,  
> and now I'm on Tutorial 37.
>
> I've learn a lot, and I understood some concept of Max, but the  
> problem is, that I don't have any fun.
>
> I'm alone to study, and I'm a bit sick of tutorial files.
> I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even  
> build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.
>
> Can anyone help me to not to be bored while I continue tutorials?
> I mean, is there anything like "tutorial 37 level guy also can  
> understand" patch that does other things than just play chords on  
> the keyboard?
>
> tutorials are great, but since I don't have any interest to play  
> chords all the time, I need some simple patches that does fun thing.
>
> examples comes with Max/MSP are too hard for me, and some patches  
> posted here are way too complicated.
>
> can anyone share some very basic patches that he/she did back in  
> the tutorial days??
>
> I hope that it's not so dumb to post this...
>
> thank you!

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>examples comes with Max/MSP are too hard for me, and some patches posted here are way too complicated.

I have some simple patches that each try to illustrate one thing. You might be able to eke out a little fun exploring them and combining them.

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 | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno

At 11:01 AM -0600 9/6/07, djeho wrote:
>examples comes with Max/MSP are too hard for me, and some patches posted here are way too complicated.

-- 
Chris Muir           | "There are many futures and only one status quo.
cbm@well.com         |  This is why conservatives mostly agree,
http://www.xfade.com |  and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno


Quote: milc wrote on Thu, 06 September 2007 10:01

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> I've learn a lot, and I understood some concept of Max, but the problem is, that I don't have any fun.

If you've only been going through the Max tutorials, I'd suggest jumping over to MSP. Some of those are a lot more fun in my opinion, especially the ones on different synthesis techniques (like FM). They also make good starting points for personal projects.

But we can't really help you unless you tell us a clearer idea of what you want to do with Max, and what you consider fun.

> I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.

> can anyone share some very basic patches that he/she did back in the tutorial days??

Quote: milc wrote on Thu, 06 September 2007 10:01
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> I've learn a lot, and I understood some concept of Max, but the problem is, that I don't have any fun.

> I try to make some fun stuff to study, but with my level, even build a very simple drum sequencer seems to be impossible.
> ...
> can anyone share some very basic patches that he/she did back in the tutorial days??

i looked at some patches and it's really helpful!

i think i was a bit discouraged by the fact that i study max alone.

but thanks to you guys and the forum, now i'm feeling much much better! (it sounds a bit like tv commercial, but anyway...)

for the question of adamj, i'm trying to do repetitive music and visual patterns with max/msp/jitter. i've been djing and released some techno/house tunes last few years, and i'm very bored of traditional electronic music gears and performances (and dumb promoters and label managers!!). i really hate to do music in linear way and ALL music softwares works in that way.

that's why i study Max, and i like the idea to do music without visual representation of sound but only by numbers.

so what i consider "fun" is something very simple, has no GUI or whatever, only some windows to put numbers to do sequence/synthesis. i plan to design my own controller that looks like pocket calculator...with actual LCD window and all.

long way to go...i'll keep bother you guys to post questions on the way,

thank you sincerely for all the replies!
i looked at some patches and it's really helpful!

i think i was a bit discouraged by the fact that i study max alone.
but thanks to you guys and the forum, now i'm feeling much much better! (it sounds a bit like tv commercial, but anyway...)

for the question of adamj, i'm trying to do repetitive music and visual patterns with max/msp/jitter. i've been djing and released some techno/house tunes last few years, and i'm very bored of traditional electronic music gears and performances (and dumb promoters and label managers!!). i really hate to do music in linear way and ALL music softwares works in that way. 

if you're into making music by numbers, and not necessarily linearly, you're definitely in the right place... once you start to see what some of the objects do, and how they can hook together and save their data, and interpolate to new sets, etc., you'll have no end of possibilities.

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