There is a new object, jweb, which lets you host web pages from within Max. There is documentation on jweb built into Max 5.

there was some talk of it somewhere in the announcement thread
http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=32739&prevloaded=1&rid=4698&S=1bb7d6836b7f80d8bec6f60f9b99713b&start=120
i’m not sure if any of that was official though. i’d guess that it wasn’t.

> There is a new object, jweb, which lets you host web pages from within Max. There is documentation on jweb built into Max 5.

i haven’t had as much time to go through the docs as i’d like, but i’ll check it out.

thanks.

There have been a few discussions in recent months of embedding a webserver inside of Max, so you can use a browser to communicate with your patches. Here’s one way: http://www.loadbang.net/space/Software/net.loadbang.web

There were also some examples of using Max to serve up web pages to communicate with the iPhone, look for the aka objects iPhone examples.

Not yet sure what’s possible with the embedded browser in Max 5…

Brad

AB

i cant find any documentation that shows what we can do inside a page loaded into a jweb object to either handle messages or to send messages.

is there any available now?

or are they coming soon?

p.s. i had to change the message to ‘readfile htmltomax.html’ for it to work for me on windows.

> p.s. i had to change the message to ‘readfile htmltomax.html’ for it to work for me on windows.
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Same here on OSX 10.5.2. Not sure if that is working as intended or a bug since I haven’t really had time to check that object out yet.

Brad

AB

i’ve got ajax to work, the canvas tag, flash …
you can also open processing applets.

it took me a long time to find the jweb object – shouldn’t cycling give it a bit more prominence in max 5? for example at least include it in the whats new section.

is there somewhere that lists the ways of getting information out of web pages into max or is it one of those mysterious objects that have lots of undocumented features that only become apparent as the months go by?

one of the other features I was looking forward to exploring in Max 5 was the database. Is this an object I just haven’t come across or is it purely for backend Max 5 use?

pelado

> is there somewhere that lists the ways of getting information out of web pages into max or is it one of those mysterious objects that have lots of undocumented features that only become apparent as the months go by?
>
> one of the other features I was looking forward to exploring in Max 5 was the database. Is this an object I just haven’t come across or is it purely for backend Max 5 use?
>
> pelado
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thats exactly what i was thinking. jweb also doesnt appear when doing autocomplete in a new object box.

what im interested in is how to get data in to jweb without loading a file / url. can we call javascript functions inside? can we create pages dynamically by passing in html?

are using anchor tags the only way to trigger messages from inside?

I was also really looking forward to the database access. If we can get some reasonable amount of control over jweb and database access there is a whole new world of applications waiting to be built.

I’ve attached the file again to this post. Hopefully it will work correctly now.

pelado

I added url at the beginning and used atoi and itoa to put the two strings together without spaces so that I had numeric values, then converted into a spacebarless string: 117 114 108 32 104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 103 111 111 103 108 101 46 99 111 109 47 115 101 97 114 99 104 63 113 61 116 111 112 105 99 110 97 109 101 = url http://www.google.com/search?q=topicname (that is after the numbers are sent to the itoa object.)

At the very least, that is one way a search string can be sent into jwep, but it only works with google. I want to be able to fill in a textbox or textarea in my own web pages.

Any suggestions?

document.title = “bla bla”;

jweb will pump out the new title
this could be used to trigger some event in max.

but the other way arround is breakin my head..
i cant find a way to get javascript commands into jweb. in a usual browser you can just type “javascript:dosomething();” and it will call the function, but the jweb object doesnt seem to do that.

is there a backslash-quote kinda trick or is it just not possible?

(message) mySearch
|
(object) sprintf url http://www.yoururl.com/?q=%s
|
(print)

this should print> url http://www.yoururl.com/?q=mySearch

then you could use php to $_GET['q'] and echo it into your textfield.

I have attached an example and also uploaded a page to my domain for testing purposes. I do so only because I want a better solution to manipulate web pages in MAX and I am hoping this inspires you. Please play around with this, but remember to post ideas bc I am out.

Thanks!

You named the patch jweb.maxpat. Think about it, this is asking for
trouble…
Its not a good idea to name a patch the same as an official external,
especially if this patch is loading that external, it might want to load
itself recursively… (There is some prevention built into Max, but
still…)

Stefan

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its still a nice example jgagich. :)

i like the way you get data from jweb to max. better then my title hack ;)

if somebody could figure out a way getting javascript funtioncalls to jweb without refreshing that would be awsome and close the loop.

Yeah, that’s awesome. I didn’t see that feature documented anywhere…

> if somebody could figure out a way getting javascript funtioncalls to jweb without refreshing that would be awsome and close the loop.

I was trying to figure this out. Do you guys know about bookmarklets? Try this:

go to http://google.com

then copy this into your browser address bar and hit enter:

javascript:(function(){document.body.style.backgroundColor=’yellow’}())

This runs javascript on the current page without refreshing. People sometimes bookmark chunks of javascript functionality like that, hence the term bookmarklet. It is not the most elegant solution, but it would close the loop for jweb. I’m sure an abstraction could make this technique easy to use.

Alas it doesn’t work with jweb, but I would think webkit supports it…

If we can figure out how to make this work, jweb will be an amazingly powerful component to use in Max patches. I hope there is a way!

http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&rid=0&S=d6eb4231af524292f49e24d55774a06f&th=33076&goto=138659#msg_138912

it has an example of using javascript to load sections of pages without need
to refresh the whole page. there is also an example of an XMLHttp request
where you can dynamically load pages from a server. From what I have seen
jweb provides access to all the latest technologies of web 2.0. The
possibilities are indeed astonishing!

Unfortunately, I am no programming wizard, but I have been looking at jquery
and found that it and many other javascript libraries and their plugins work
well in jweb. If you haven’t seen them, I suggest you check them out (there
are some links in the patch i referenced).

I haven’t found out how to get data into jweb yet, other than the exampe
posted above by jmg460, but surely there must be ways of achieving it with
javascript? Has anyone tried sending messages to the named jweb object?

I think this is one of the most explosive objects that max 5 has introduced.
If only I could work out how to get a json file to be downloaded from a
site and opened as a max patch on your computer… Ha, ha! there’s another
security worry :)

pelado

> > if somebody could figure out a way getting javascript funtioncalls to
> jweb without refreshing that would be awsome and close the loop.
>
> I was trying to figure this out. Do you guys know about bookmarklets? Try
> this:
>
> go to http://google.com
>
> then copy this into your browser address bar and hit enter:
>
> javascript:(function(){document.body.style.backgroundColor=’yellow’}())
>
> This runs javascript on the current page without refreshing. People
> sometimes bookmark chunks of javascript functionality like that, hence the
> term bookmarklet. It is not the most elegant solution, but it would close
> the loop for jweb. I’m sure an abstraction could make this technique easy to
> use.
>
> Alas it doesn’t work with jweb, but I would think webkit supports it…
>
> If we can figure out how to make this work, jweb will be an amazingly
> powerful component to use in Max patches. I hope there is a way!
> –
> Adam Murray