Where to GET STARTED?

Oct 19, 2007 at 7:46pm

Where to GET STARTED?

Hi there, i just downloded the max/msp demo and i don’t know anything about it :) just want to try it and see

Is there a complete newbie guide?

Where should i start from?

Thanks!

#34247
Oct 19, 2007 at 8:06pm

Check the tutorials that were installed with your demo copy. They are some of the best tutorials ever written for anything.

If you work hard, you can get through them fairly quick. Once you are done, try refer to the help files and come here with any specific questions.

Good luck!

#115219
Oct 19, 2007 at 9:21pm

MaxMSP 4.6DocumentationTutorial PatchesMax Tutorials

???

I can start those tutorials but where do i get the text explaining? lol

Thanks for your help!

#115220
Oct 19, 2007 at 9:38pm

You must not have looked very hard…

In that very same Documentation folder there should be “Max46Tutorial.pdf”… which explains each of the tutorial patches in depth. I would also highly recommend looking through “Max46Fundamentals.pdf”, which covers a lot of basic Max patching concepts.

/dan

Quote: 212121 wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 15:21
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> MaxMSP 4.6DocumentationTutorial PatchesMax Tutorials
>
> ???
>
> I can start those tutorials but where do i get the text explaining? lol
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> Thanks for your help!
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#115221
Oct 19, 2007 at 9:39pm

oh right didn’t notice the pdf files :)

thanks mate

#115222
Oct 19, 2007 at 9:57pm

My recommendation on doing the tutorials (and what I have my students
do):

1) read through the tutorial and work with the associated tutorial
patch in MaxMSP
2) look up all new objects introduced in the Max and/or MSP Reference
Manual, also looking up any objects referred to in the ‘see also’
section at the end of each reference manual entry
3) modify the tutorial patch in some way to change the way it works
or to make it do something slightly (or substantially) different –
change arguments, add a new object, change the routing, modify the
passed data, etc. Save the modified tutorial in another folder under
a new name (to avoid conflicts with the existing original tutorials).
4) after a while of doing a number of the tutorials, think of ways of
combining different tutorial patches together to do some new combined
function.
5) use one or more of your modified (and/or combined) tutorial
patches as the starting basis for a project of your own.

Good luck and have fun!

On Oct 19, 2007, at 3:39 PM, name wrote:

>
> oh right didn’t notice the pdf files :)
>
> thanks mate

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#115223
Oct 19, 2007 at 10:11pm

Could anyone tell me where i can find some good synthsaudio work done in max? just to seehear or even try, thanks!

#115224
Oct 20, 2007 at 12:38am

http://cycling74.com/story/2007/8/20/111019/403

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#115225
Oct 23, 2007 at 4:02am

I just got my copy of Max/MSP and Jitter today! :)

I’m waiting for my ilok license (no biggie, still have a few days left on teh demo), but was wondering if I should learn Max/MSP before I start on the Jitter road? I’ve been using Isadora a little bit (I got Max because I wanted to explore sound more), and am used to node based software (I’m a Maya and Shake user as well). Should I just jump in Jitter at the same time? Will I have to relearn a lot when Max5 comes out?

Sorry for all the newbie questions…

#115226
Oct 23, 2007 at 4:43am

At 9:02 PM -0700 10/22/07, Don K wrote:
>I’m waiting for my ilok license (no biggie, still have a few days left on teh demo), but was wondering if I should learn Max/MSP before I start on the Jitter road?

Yes, you will need to know the event-level stuff of Max to use Jitter, or MSP for that matter.

>I’ve been using Isadora a little bit (I got Max because I wanted to explore sound more), and am used to node based software (I’m a Maya and Shake user as well). Should I just jump in Jitter at the same time?

I would run through the Max tutorials then move on to Jitter or MSP, depending on what you want to focus on.

>Will I have to relearn a lot when Max5 comes out?

Not very much, no.

-C


Chris Muir | “There are many futures and only one status quo.
cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree,
http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue.” – Brian Eno

#115227
Oct 23, 2007 at 11:12am

#115228
Oct 24, 2007 at 8:32am

I got my license today, hurrah. I’m excited.
I’ve been tinkering around with Max the last couple weeks, slowly doing the max tutorials, getting bored, loading a complex patch and getting lost, reading the Fundamentals pdfs (I was hoping for printed manuals), and tonight while setting up my midi inputs (haven’t done any output to outboard hardware yet), learned how to use rewire with Max and Protools LE to record Max and my MPC (it was playing the example midi synth).

Thanks for your advice Chris on learning the basics first, and thanks jean for making me feel comfortable with experimenting and picking things apart. I work in visual arts, longtime hobbyist with music and sound, so I’m excited to learn a whole new form of computer art that isn’t necessarily visual.

Are there any good books or videos on Max/MSP or Jitter that I might want to pick up? Are there any printed manuals I can order?

#115229
Oct 24, 2007 at 10:55am

> Are there any good books or videos on Max/MSP or Jitter that I might want to
> pick up? Are there any printed manuals I can order?
> –
> -DonK

No, the best doc to begin with comes with the software. I like to quote Josh
Goldberg, who advices to print the manuals and tutorials by saying “Kill
trees, save your brain.”
J-F.

#115230
Oct 24, 2007 at 4:11pm

At 1:32 AM -0700 10/24/07, Don K wrote:
>Are there any good books or videos on Max/MSP or Jitter that I might want to pick up? Are there any printed manuals I can order?

I don’t know of any good books, but Peter Elsea’s tutorials are good, too:
ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems/MaxTutors

-C


Chris Muir | “There are many futures and only one status quo.
cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree,
http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue.” – Brian Eno

#115231
Oct 25, 2007 at 6:47am

One last question for this thread.

In Maya, I can use it’s internal scripting language (MEL) or Python to script repetitive tasks, like controlling hundreds of attributes (similar to attributes in Max as far as I can tell) on hundreds of objects, etc. busywork. Is there anything like this in Max? I haven’t come across anything anyways. I’m still a ways from doing anything like this, but I was wondering about Max’s capabilities. Anything internal to Max?

In case you’re curious, here’s the Wiki on MEL, MEL is great for writing scripts to create node networks, I was hoping Max has something like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Embedded_Language

#115232
Oct 25, 2007 at 8:11am

Have a look at Tutorials 46 & 47,
cheers
Roger
— Don K wrote:

>
> One last question for this thread.
>
> In Maya, I can use it’s internal scripting language
> (MEL) or Python to script repetitive tasks, like
> controlling hundreds of attributes (similar to
> attributes in Max as far as I can tell) on hundreds
> of objects, etc. busywork. Is there anything like
> this in Max? I haven’t come across anything
> anyways. I’m still a ways from doing anything like
> this, but I was wondering about Max’s capabilities.
> Anything internal to Max?
>
> In case you’re curious, here’s the Wiki on MEL, MEL
> is great for writing scripts to create node
> networks, I was hoping Max has something like this.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Embedded_Language
> –
> -DonK
>

#115233
Oct 25, 2007 at 10:20pm

Awesome. Thanks for the tip on the tutorials. No loops or conditionals? I’ll see later once I get comfortable with Max, thanks.

#115234
Oct 25, 2007 at 11:18pm

Nevermind, I found my answer in tutorial 38. I think I’ll finish the tutorials before asking anymore questions, they seem to have all my answers so far.

#115235

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