Which HId USB controlle would you recommend?

Jun 11, 2007 at 12:33pm

Which HId USB controlle would you recommend?

Hello,

I have used a Saitek P-880 gamepad as a controller for MaxMSP. It is
cheap and has many controls, however I found there was some jitter on
one of the joystick sensors. Also, I would like to have more than
only two axis for the joystick (left-right, front-back). Is there an
affordable joystick/gamepad offering more directions (diagonals or
more, so that it would be more suitable for circular spatialization
for instance)?

Roald Baudoux

#32408
Jun 11, 2007 at 12:56pm

I am also interested in this question. I have used a Logitech WingMan
successfully with hi for several years but it seems to be phasing out of the
market place. I would enjoy hearing other peoples’ experience with
inexpensive wireless devices.

On 6/11/07 8:33 AM, “Roald Baudoux” wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have used a Saitek P-880 gamepad as a controller for MaxMSP. It is
> cheap and has many controls, however I found there was some jitter on
> one of the joystick sensors. Also, I would like to have more than
> only two axis for the joystick (left-right, front-back). Is there an
> affordable joystick/gamepad offering more directions (diagonals or
> more, so that it would be more suitable for circular spatialization
> for instance)?
>
> Roald Baudoux

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

#106531
Jun 11, 2007 at 1:15pm

For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:

http://www.3dconnexion.com/

Which works perfectly with hi (there’s also a wrap made by Masayuki Akamatsu – aka.spacenavigator) and has tremendous potential even for 3d spatialization.

Best regards,

Rui

#106532
Jun 11, 2007 at 2:14pm

Rui Penha skrev:
> For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:
>
> http://www.3dconnexion.com/
>
> Which works perfectly with hi (there’s also a wrap made by Masayuki Akamatsu – aka.spacenavigator) and has tremendous potential even for 3d spatialization.
>
I concur on this one! I bought two of them, they’re relatively
inexpensive and offer an enormous amount of control.

For a couple of different reasons I didn’t really like the Akamatsu
abstraction, but rolling your own using hi or joystick (from
maxobjects.com) is really easy.

I use mine to move and rotate Jitter objects, but they are good for
anything,really.

Andreas.

#106533
Jun 11, 2007 at 2:45pm

Those work with HI under OS X ?

On Jun 11, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:

> Rui Penha skrev:
>> For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:
>>
>> http://www.3dconnexion.com/
>>
>> Which works perfectly with hi (there’s also a wrap made by
>> Masayuki Akamatsu – aka.spacenavigator) and has tremendous
>> potential even for 3d spatialization.
>>
> I concur on this one! I bought two of them, they’re relatively
> inexpensive and offer an enormous amount of control.
>
> For a couple of different reasons I didn’t really like the Akamatsu
> abstraction, but rolling your own using hi or joystick (from
> maxobjects.com) is really easy.
>
> I use mine to move and rotate Jitter objects, but they are good for
> anything,really.
>
> Andreas.

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info

#106534
Jun 11, 2007 at 6:25pm

On 11 Jun 2007, at 14:15, Rui Penha wrote:

> For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:

So, if I were using it with Max/MSP to perform in front of an
audience, would I be expected to use the “Personal Edition” or the
“Standard Edition”? How is a license on a piece of hardware enforced
anyway?

My HID controller of choice is the Saitek X52 (http://
http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm), although its aesthetic appeal is
questionable, unless you really like blue LEDs and helicopters. I see
there’s now a “pro” version.

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
http://www.cassiel.com
http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
http://www.loadbang.net

#106535
Jun 11, 2007 at 8:59pm

I believe so, since mr. Akamatsu uses OSX.

Andreas.

vade skrev:
> Those work with HI under OS X ?
>
> On Jun 11, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:
>
>> Rui Penha skrev:
>>> For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:
>>>
>>> http://www.3dconnexion.com/
>>>
>>> Which works perfectly with hi (there’s also a wrap made by Masayuki
>>> Akamatsu – aka.spacenavigator) and has tremendous potential even for
>>> 3d spatialization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I concur on this one! I bought two of them, they’re relatively
>> inexpensive and offer an enormous amount of control.
>>
>> For a couple of different reasons I didn’t really like the Akamatsu
>> abstraction, but rolling your own using hi or joystick (from
>> maxobjects.com) is really easy.
>>
>> I use mine to move and rotate Jitter objects, but they are good for
>> anything,really.
>>
>> Andreas.
>> maxmsp@cycling74.com
>
> *v a d e //*
>
> *www.vade.info*
> *abstrakt.vade.info*
>
>
>
> ————————————————————————
>
>

#106536
Jun 11, 2007 at 9:10pm

Nick Rothwell skrev:
>
> On 11 Jun 2007, at 14:15, Rui Penha wrote:
>
>> For spatialization, I’ve been using 3d connexion’s SpaceNavigator:
>
> So, if I were using it with Max/MSP to perform in front of an
> audience, would I be expected to use the “Personal Edition” or the
> “Standard Edition”? How is a license on a piece of hardware enforced
> anyway?
Haha, I wondered the same thing initially! I think the answer is more a
support one than anything else: “Support is provided exclusively via our
web site.” vs. “Telephone and e-mail support is provided in addition to
support via our web site.”

> My HID controller of choice is the Saitek X52
> (http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm), although its aesthetic
> appeal is questionable, unless you really like blue LEDs and
> helicopters. I see there’s now a “pro” version.
My old HID of choice was the GameTrak game controller. Man, was that
thing theatrical!! And CHEAP, too, well worth looking into!
http://www.in2games.uk.com/corporate/press-media.php?mediaid=304&mediatype=VIDEO
- in French for an air of academia ;-)
http://www.in2games.uk.com/corporate/siteadmin/media/images/55330204gametrak_unit_RGB_image.sized.jpg
Really sensitive, can be used for playing Theremin sounds without a
Theremin around…

Now it’s the SpaceNav and the Lemur that give me my controller fix, though.

Andreas.

#106537
Jun 12, 2007 at 7:02pm

On 11 Jun 2007, at 22:10, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:

> Haha, I wondered the same thing initially! I think the answer is
> more a support one than anything else: “Support is provided
> exclusively via our web site.” vs. “Telephone and e-mail support is
> provided in addition to support via our web site.”

How much support does one actually need for a USB knob?

– N.

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
http://www.cassiel.com
http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
http://www.loadbang.net

#106538
Jun 12, 2007 at 7:23pm

Nick Rothwell skrev:
>
> On 11 Jun 2007, at 22:10, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:
>
>> Haha, I wondered the same thing initially! I think the answer is more
>> a support one than anything else: “Support is provided exclusively
>> via our web site.” vs. “Telephone and e-mail support is provided in
>> addition to support via our web site.”
>
> How much support does one actually need for a USB knob?
>
Exactly. It is perhaps just a feable attempt to make people pay more for
a product they already have? All I know is that there was no license in
sight when I bought mine…
Andreas.

#106539
Jun 12, 2007 at 7:45pm

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