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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: Why a M4L patch speaks Max only while it is open?</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[Why a M4L patch speaks Max only while it is open?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>ctrlzjones</dc:creator>

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						<p>As soon as I close it and want to send messages from my Max patch to the M4L instrument in Live it stops listening&#8230;<br />
It is not MIDI, just plain numbers and text.</p>
<p>I tried the usual [send] &#038; [receive] and also via [udp], but neither is working.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Why a M4L patch speaks Max only while it is open?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>Max for Live runs as part of Live, so it&#8217;s in a different process to &#8220;real&#8221; Max. If you open a Max for Live device it&#8217;s in Max temporarily, but when closed it&#8217;s back in Live and so can&#8217;t do send/receive to/from other patchers in Max.</p>
<p><code>udp</code> should work fine between M4L and Max, though &#8211; in fact, I&#8217;ve done it.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Why a M4L patch speaks Max only while it is open?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>

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						<p>Agreed. Use udp for all my m4l to max communication with no problems</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Wetterberg</dc:creator>

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						<p>I use udp constantly, and it&#8217;s not without problems, tbh. Mainly it&#8217;s when opening/closing editors for patches in Live &#8211; udpreceive will try to bind to already bound ports, etc.</p>
<p>in fact, does anyone know of a simple solution to this? I should ask in a separate thread, I guess.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Why a M4L patch speaks Max only while it is open?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>Didn&#8217;t we have this discussion at the Max conference a year ago? Yes, machine-global resources (like IP ports) are a pain to handle when running programs are being thrown between two different processes. There may be a combination of loadbang/closebang/device-ready messages which will make it work, but it won&#8217;t be pretty&#8230;</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>ctrlzjones</dc:creator>

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						<p>anyway;</p>
<p>I just open my Max/Live combination with [upd] and now they are happily sending and receiving.<br />
let&#8217;s see what tomorrow brings &#8230;</p>
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