Cycling 74 » Topic: Why can't I wrap my head around poly~? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/feed Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:27:23 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-44685 <![CDATA[Why can't I wrap my head around poly~?]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-44685 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:09:46 +0000 oivindi Ever since my debut with MaxMSP quite some time ago, I haven’t really gotten my head around poly~. That is probably because I haven’t used it enough, but the fact that I haven’t been using it a lot is also, probably, a result of being a bit intimidated. I remember hoping that Max 5 would have simplified polyphonic management, like in Kyma where you just type the number of voices you want after the original patch is done, but that didn’t happen.

My main problem is basically that when I have built a “mono” patch, and want to polyphonize it, I fumble like a, well, you know which metaphore to insert here.

Take the patch below, for instance. A graphic buffer, a groove~ object, a preset, and some other stuff. Not too advanced. What would be the easiest way to make it polyphonic? I am now struggling back and forth between the poly and the main patch, trying to make it work. Lots of hassle.

If anyone could perhaps give me some pointers, that would be great.

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-160817 <![CDATA[Re: Why can't I wrap my head around poly~?]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-160817 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:30:35 +0000 Jean-Francois Charles Hi,
poly~ is a world. Start with going slowly, methodically, through the MSP tutorial on poly~.
As a first step, use poly~ in the most straightforward way: use messages note or midinote, and poly~ will take care of the voice allocation. That may very well be enough.
But of course, after going through the tutorial, you will have a better idea of what will go inside your [poly~] and what will stay outside.
Best,
J-F.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-160818 <![CDATA[Re: Why can't I wrap my head around poly~?]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/why-cant-i-wrap-my-head-around-poly/#post-160818 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:13:25 +0000 Roman Thilenius
oivindi wrote on Fri, 10 July 2009 20:09

like in Kyma where you just type the number of voices you want after the original patch is done
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My main problem is basically that when I have built a “mono” patch, and want to polyphonize it

well, if you know you need polyphony later on, you should
start making a monophonic poly from the first minute on.

this way you´ll find out better where it is useful to make
the interface or for example why it is uncool to use preset
for a synth voice by directly connecting stuff to the DSP.

do you also make GUIs for you patches? maybe try to start
from there. i always have poly~s reduced to audio only as much
as possible while everything else from GUI over logic down to
voice allocation and automation/preset is outside the poly~.

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