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					<title><![CDATA[wiimote connection stability]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>ico</dc:creator>

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						<p>Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a<br />
controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote&#8217;s Bluetooth<br />
connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and 2nd gen<br />
Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth signal in<br />
the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason&#8211;it appears to<br />
have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed<br />
symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify during the<br />
limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask audience<br />
to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable level of<br />
reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the lab where<br />
we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of tightly<br />
packed equipment that could&#8217;ve very well caused similar connectivity issues,<br />
and yet has not done so.</p>
<p>With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. Is<br />
this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae than MBPs?</p>
<p>Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br />
Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)<br />
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound &#038; Intermedia Studio<br />
Virginia Tech<br />
Dept. of Music &#8211; 0240<br />
Blacksburg, VA 24061<br />
(540) 231-6139<br />
(540) 231-5034 (fax)<br />
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: wiimote connection stability]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Kasper</dc:creator>

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						<p>>Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a<br />
>controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote&#8217;s Bluetooth<br />
>connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and 2nd gen<br />
>Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth signal in<br />
>the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason&#8211;it appears to<br />
>have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed<br />
>symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify during the<br />
>limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask audience<br />
>to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable level of<br />
>reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the lab where<br />
>we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of tightly<br />
>packed equipment that could&#8217;ve very well caused similar connectivity issues,<br />
>and yet has not done so.<br />
><br />
>With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. Is<br />
>this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae than MBPs?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use the Wii myself, but in my ensemble 2 of the  players do <br />
use them &#8211; one is even using 2 of them &#8211; and we never had this kind <br />
of problems</p>
<p>the computers are all macs, mostly intel, but there are some PPC (the <br />
wii are synchronised to intel macs, running X.4.10 i belive)<br />
we once had a problem with the bluetooth on one of them, a macbook <br />
(non-pro) but it seems a b-tooth problem of some of those (thanks <br />
apple!) &#8211; it was easily solved with a b-tooth usb key.</p>
<p>
hope it helps (but i suspect it just adds to the mystery)</p>
<p>best</p>
<p>kasper<br />
&#8211; <br />
  Kasper T. Toeplitz<br />
noise, composition, bass, computer</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sleazeArt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sleazeArt.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: wiimote connection stability]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zip Boterbloem</dc:creator>

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						<p>What did you use for your Wiimote connection? I&#8217;ve tested the aka  <br />
stuff, junxion and osculator. None of them is totally reliable, but  <br />
osculator connections are the most stable.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Zip</p>
<p>Op 20-apr-2008, om 16:34 heeft Ivica Ico Bukvic het volgende geschreven:</p>
<p>> Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a<br />
> controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote&#8217;s Bluetooth<br />
> connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and  <br />
> 2nd gen<br />
> Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth  <br />
> signal in<br />
> the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason&#8211;it  <br />
> appears to<br />
> have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed<br />
> symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify  <br />
> during the<br />
> limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask  <br />
> audience<br />
> to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable  <br />
> level of<br />
> reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the  <br />
> lab where<br />
> we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of  <br />
> tightly<br />
> packed equipment that could&#8217;ve very well caused similar  <br />
> connectivity issues,<br />
> and yet has not done so.<br />
><br />
> With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar  <br />
> experiences. Is<br />
> this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae  <br />
> than MBPs?<br />
><br />
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br />
> Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)<br />
> Director, DISIS Interactive Sound &#038; Intermedia Studio<br />
> Virginia Tech<br />
> Dept. of Music &#8211; 0240<br />
> Blacksburg, VA 24061<br />
> (540) 231-6139<br />
> (540) 231-5034 (fax)<br />
> <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a><br />
> <a href="http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/</a><br />
><br />
></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: wiimote connection stability]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>ico</dc:creator>

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						<p>Aka stuff, but what made it more complex was the fact that we also used<br />
wireless webcam which apparently uses near the same frequency range like the<br />
Bluetooth standard, making one of the bluetooth dongles we tried using to<br />
boost signal result in wireless video signal corruption. We could not link<br />
the disconnection symptoms to camera usage, however.</p>
<p>So, if I understand correctly all of the solutions currently available seem<br />
to be unstable in terms of maintaining connectivity?</p>
<p>Many thanks for the feedback!</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br />
Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)<br />
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound &#038; Intermedia Studio<br />
Virginia Tech<br />
Dept. of Music &#8211; 0240<br />
Blacksburg, VA 24061<br />
(540) 231-6139<br />
(540) 231-5034 (fax)<br />
<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/</a></p>
<p>
> &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br />
> From: <a href="mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com">maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com</a> [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]<br />
> On Behalf Of Zip Boterbloem<br />
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:37 PM<br />
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] wiimote connection stability<br />
> <br />
> What did you use for your Wiimote connection? I&#8217;ve tested the aka<br />
> stuff, junxion and osculator. None of them is totally reliable, but<br />
> osculator connections are the most stable.<br />
> <br />
> Best,<br />
> <br />
> Zip<br />
> <br />
> Op 20-apr-2008, om 16:34 heeft Ivica Ico Bukvic het volgende geschreven:<br />
> <br />
> > Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a<br />
> > controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote&#8217;s Bluetooth<br />
> > connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and<br />
> > 2nd gen<br />
> > Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth<br />
> > signal in<br />
> > the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason&#8211;it<br />
> > appears to<br />
> > have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed<br />
> > symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify<br />
> > during the<br />
> > limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask<br />
> > audience<br />
> > to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable<br />
> > level of<br />
> > reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the<br />
> > lab where<br />
> > we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of<br />
> > tightly<br />
> > packed equipment that could&#8217;ve very well caused similar<br />
> > connectivity issues,<br />
> > and yet has not done so.<br />
> ><br />
> > With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar<br />
> > experiences. Is<br />
> > this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae<br />
> > than MBPs?<br />
> ><br />
> > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br />
> > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)<br />
> > Director, DISIS Interactive Sound &#038; Intermedia Studio<br />
> > Virginia Tech<br />
> > Dept. of Music &#8211; 0240<br />
> > Blacksburg, VA 24061<br />
> > (540) 231-6139<br />
> > (540) 231-5034 (fax)<br />
> > <a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a><br />
> > <a href="http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/</a><br />
> ><br />
> ><br />
> </p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: wiimote connection stability]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Kevin Shea Adams</dc:creator>

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						<p>can anyone confirm that using a USB bluetooth key improves the reliability of wii connections on intel macs (macbook pro in particular)? I am having a lot of connection problems with the aka object, almost unusable, and osculator looks promising and perhaps has better connection stability but my first experiments with it crashed max. I&#8217;m using max5, any thoughts would be much appreciated,</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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