Windows XP Betas: MaxMSP 4.6.0 b14 + Jitter 1.6.0 b8

Aug 26, 2006 at 12:21am

Windows XP Betas: MaxMSP 4.6.0 b14 + Jitter 1.6.0 b8

We’d like to thank the Windows XP users for their patience while
we’ve focused on preparing MaxMSP 4.6 and Jitter 1.6 for Macintosh UB
release. Beta versions for Windows XP are now available from the
following links. If you feel inclined to test out the XP version let
us know of any problems you encounter with example patches, steps to
reproduce, and system information. Please post Jitter related issues
to the Jitter forum and MaxMSP related issues to the MaxMSP forum.

Jitter 1.6 requires MaxMSP 4.6, and release notes are included in the
downloadable archives. Note that MaxMSP 4.6 and Jitter 1.6 do not
have a different demo period from MaxMSP 4.5 and Jitter 1.5 and that
you will need to own the software if these demo periods have expired.
Please let us know if you have any issues with the installers,
especially if there are problems with .NET version dependencies as
the Jitter installer has exhibited in the past.

MaxMSP 4.6.0 b14 XP:

http://www.cycling74.com/download/maxmsp460b14.zip

Jitter 1.6.0 b8 XP:

http://www.cycling74.com/download/jitter160b8.zip

While these versions seem to be pretty stable, as always with beta
software, it is not recommended for installation/performance work,
and recommended that you back up your work before installing and more
often while working with the software.

Thanks,
Joshua

#27298
Aug 27, 2006 at 6:21pm

Hi
so the software update will not work for mac osx 10 3.9?
Thanks
Daniela

On 8/25/06, Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
>
> We’d like to thank the Windows XP users for their patience while
> we’ve focused on preparing MaxMSP 4.6 and Jitter 1.6 for Macintosh UB
> release. Beta versions for Windows XP are now available from the
> following links. If you feel inclined to test out the XP version let
> us know of any problems you encounter with example patches, steps to
> reproduce, and system information. Please post Jitter related issues
> to the Jitter forum and MaxMSP related issues to the MaxMSP forum.
>
> Jitter 1.6 requires MaxMSP 4.6, and release notes are included in the
> downloadable archives. Note that MaxMSP 4.6 and Jitter 1.6 do not
> have a different demo period from MaxMSP 4.5 and Jitter 1.5 and that
> you will need to own the software if these demo periods have expired.
> Please let us know if you have any issues with the installers,
> especially if there are problems with .NET version dependencies as
> the Jitter installer has exhibited in the past.
>
> MaxMSP 4.6.0 b14 XP:
> http://www.cycling74.com/download/maxmsp460b14.zip
>
> Jitter 1.6.0 b8 XP:
> http://www.cycling74.com/download/jitter160b8.zip
>
> While these versions seem to be pretty stable, as always with beta
> software, it is not recommended for installation/performance work,
> and recommended that you back up your work before installing and more
> often while working with the software.
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua
>
>
>

#82451
Aug 27, 2006 at 9:58pm

On Aug 27, 2006, at 11:21 AM, daniela Steinsapir wrote:

> so the software update will not work for mac osx 10 3.9?

I’m a little confused. This message is regarding the Windows XP
version. The OS X UB version (Jitter 1.6) works fine under 10.3.9 and
higher. The OS X CFM version (Jitter 1.5.X) works under 10.3.0 and
higher.

-Joshua

#82452
Aug 27, 2006 at 11:24pm

Hi Trond,

(Moving back to the mailing list for other user’s benefit). Thanks
for pointing out this issue with the MaxMSP 4.6 and Jitter 1.6 beta
XP installers removing MaxMSP 4.5.X and Jitter 1.5.X. We will try to
come up with an appropriate fix for this.

I’m stumped as to why the Jitter 1.6.0 XP installer would be crashing
(might suggest refreshing your browser cache before trying to
download again). Anyone else able to verify this problem with the
Jitter 1.6.0 b8 XP installer?

Thanks,
Joshua

On Aug 26, 2006, at 3:40 AM, Trond Lossius wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
>
> installing MaxMSP 4.6.0b14 seems to work fine, but I have problems
> installing Jitter. After installing MaxMSP I restarted the computer
> before attempting to install Jitter 1.6.0b8. The Jitter installer
> crash as soon as the “Welcome to the Jitter 1.b.0b8 Setup Wizard
> window” shows up. I have tried downloading twice in case the
> archive was corrupted, and I have been rebooting and attempting to
> install again, but the problem persists.
>
> Investigating further I see that while the Max 4.5 folder is still
> around, the 4.5 max.exe and maxRT.exe has been removed by the 4.6
> installer. Max 4.5 is no longer part of the start/all programs
> menu. Looking inside the Common FilesCycling 74 folder it also
> appears that all externals have been deleted. I suppose this have
> been part of the expected installer behavior.
>
> I have tried zipping the 4.5 folder, delete the original folder
> itself and move the zip file elsewhere in case it interfered with
> the installer, but to no avail.
>
> Finally I tried installing Jitter 1.5.2 again. Externals off course
> ends up in the wrong place as compared to Max 4.6, but once jitter-
> externals and jit.window/jit.fgui was moved to proper places I was
> able to load and run the jit.pwindow help file.
>
> I don’t know how useful the Windows crash logs are, and I was only
> able to retrieve some sort of xml file, but I will mail it to you
> off-list.
>
> Sorry I didn’t catch this earlier on.
>
> Best,
> Trond

#82453
Aug 28, 2006 at 4:49am

#82454
Aug 28, 2006 at 5:14am

#82455
Aug 28, 2006 at 5:31am

#82456
Aug 28, 2006 at 11:50pm

Hi all,

FWIW

Recently I installed a Bootcamp version of XP on my MacBook Pro and had the same trouble installing Jitter. The Jitter installer crashes. Max/MSP seems to work fine. If you want a crash log let me know.

The reason I wanted to install the latest beta versions is because I suck at using windows and could not figure how to install jitter with all that .NET 1.1.4322 business. At first I installed .NET 2.0 and then found out that would not work on the forums. So then installed 1.1.4322 and didn’t work… I then commenced a series of install and uinstall and restart sequences, but couldn’t get the current Jitter 1.5 to work. Anyhow, I found my way back to OS X and feel much better,(FWIW).

Cheers,

Tim

#82457
Aug 28, 2006 at 11:58pm

On Aug 28, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Timothy Devine wrote:

> Recently I installed a Bootcamp version of XP on my MacBook Pro and
> had the same trouble installing Jitter. The Jitter installer
> crashes. Max/MSP seems to work fine. If you want a crash log let
> me know.

Thanks for the report. If you run the windows XP system updater and
install any system updates, does it still crash?

-Joshua

#82458
Aug 29, 2006 at 12:00am

didn’t you forget that on windows you also have to install quicktime manually?
//yac

>
> Hi all,
>
> FWIW
>
> Recently I installed a Bootcamp version of XP on my MacBook Pro and had the same trouble
> installing Jitter. The Jitter installer crashes. Max/MSP seems to work fine. If you want a
> crash log let me know.
>
> The reason I wanted to install the latest beta versions is because I suck at using windows and
> could not figure how to install jitter with all that .NET 1.1.4322 business. At first I installed
> .NET 2.0 and then found out that would not work on the forums. So then installed 1.1.4322 and
> didn’t work… I then commenced a series of install and uinstall and restart sequences, but
> couldn’t get the current Jitter 1.5 to work. Anyhow, I found my way back to OS X and feel much
> better,(FWIW).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>

#82459
Aug 29, 2006 at 12:10am

i installed the xp betas on my macbook with a small error as well.

i installed max with no problem, did not rebot and tried to install
jitter without uncompressing the zip. the installer crashed 2 times
for me.

i rebooted, unzipped the files and was able to install with no problem.

hth

~s

#82460
Aug 29, 2006 at 12:22am

On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Yacine Sebti wrote:

> didn’t you forget that on windows you also have to install
> quicktime manually?

I believe that this and Trond’s report are referring to the installer
itself crashing rather than MaxMSP as it loads Jitter without QT.

I’d be curious to hear whether having QT installed makes any
difference for the Windows Installer software.

-Joshua

#82461
Aug 29, 2006 at 12:25am

On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Scott Fitzgerald wrote:

> i installed the xp betas on my macbook with a small error as well.
>
> i installed max with no problem, did not rebot and tried to install
> jitter without uncompressing the zip. the installer crashed 2 times
> for me.
>
> i rebooted, unzipped the files and was able to install with no
> problem.

Glad to hear. Yes, as Windows warns whenever running applications
from within a ZIP archive that there may be issues. I would
definitely recommend unzipping the archive before running. Trond and
Tim, can you do a big favor and confirm if any of this advice lets
you install Jitter 1.6b8? And if so what appeared to be the issue,
ZIP, reboot, QT, windows update?

Thanks,
Joshua

#82462
Aug 29, 2006 at 4:49am

Ahh Quicktime! of course!

Thanks!

Ok,

Quicktime and Java2 installed and max 4.57and jitter 1.52 work fine with .NET 1.1.4322.

Am pretty sure i have all Windows updates but aren’t certain. Tried extracting the zip files properly and rebooting, but the jitter installer did not work. The only thing I can think that i haven’t tried yet is uninstalling it all and installing it all with .NET 2.0.

I will try again in the next few days; it is a slow process all this installing and rebooting.

Hope it helps,

Cheers,

Tim

#82463
Aug 29, 2006 at 4:58am

btw, i have .net 2.x installed

On 8/28/06, Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
>
> On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Scott Fitzgerald wrote:
>
> > i installed the xp betas on my macbook with a small error as well.
> >
> > i installed max with no problem, did not rebot and tried to install
> > jitter without uncompressing the zip. the installer crashed 2 times
> > for me.
> >
> > i rebooted, unzipped the files and was able to install with no
> > problem.
>
> Glad to hear. Yes, as Windows warns whenever running applications
> from within a ZIP archive that there may be issues. I would
> definitely recommend unzipping the archive before running. Trond and
> Tim, can you do a big favor and confirm if any of this advice lets
> you install Jitter 1.6b8? And if so what appeared to be the issue,
> ZIP, reboot, QT, windows update?
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua
>

#82464
Aug 29, 2006 at 6:56am

Hi,

my computer was already up to date when it comes to critical XP updates.
The installer was unpacked using WinRAR before installing. I had QT
7.0.something. I had already tried rebooting several times and
installing when I got the crash, and I had rebooted after installing Max
before the first attempt at installing Jitter.

I have now updated to QT 7.1. I also downloaded the Jitter installer
again having first emptied the browser cache. It is unfortunately still
crashing. I also removed Jitter 1.5.2 before installing Jitter 1.6b8,
but that didn’t seem to make any difference.

I next updated the optional XP updates that might at all might seem
relevant: KB904942, KB909520, KB896344, and rebooted. The installer is
still crashing.

Please let me know if there is anything else you would want me to test.

Best,
Trond

Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
>
> On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Scott Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> i installed the xp betas on my macbook with a small error as well.
>>
>> i installed max with no problem, did not rebot and tried to install
>> jitter without uncompressing the zip. the installer crashed 2 times
>> for me.
>>
>> i rebooted, unzipped the files and was able to install with no problem.
>
> Glad to hear. Yes, as Windows warns whenever running applications from
> within a ZIP archive that there may be issues. I would definitely
> recommend unzipping the archive before running. Trond and Tim, can you
> do a big favor and confirm if any of this advice lets you install
> Jitter 1.6b8? And if so what appeared to be the issue, ZIP, reboot,
> QT, windows update?
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua

#82465
Aug 29, 2006 at 5:58pm

Hi Trond,

Many thanks for your thoroughness. We’ll try to figure this one out.
Unfortunately, I’m a bit stumped without testing on more machines.

Thanks,
Joshua

On Aug 28, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Trond Lossius wrote:

> Hi,
>
> my computer was already up to date when it comes to critical XP
> updates. The installer was unpacked using WinRAR before installing.
> I had QT 7.0.something. I had already tried rebooting several times
> and installing when I got the crash, and I had rebooted after
> installing Max before the first attempt at installing Jitter.
>
> I have now updated to QT 7.1. I also downloaded the Jitter
> installer again having first emptied the browser cache. It is
> unfortunately still crashing. I also removed Jitter 1.5.2 before
> installing Jitter 1.6b8, but that didn’t seem to make any difference.
>
> I next updated the optional XP updates that might at all might seem
> relevant: KB904942, KB909520, KB896344, and rebooted. The installer
> is still crashing.
>
> Please let me know if there is anything else you would want me to
> test.
>
> Best,
> Trond

#82466
Aug 29, 2006 at 7:06pm

shooting in the dark here, but are the any antivirus/firewalls that might
get in the way?

#82467
Aug 29, 2006 at 8:22pm

On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:06 PM, nesa wrote:

> shooting in the dark here, but are the any antivirus/firewalls that
> might get in the way?

Shouldn’t be anything network related, but perhaps it could be
antivirus related. I have a few other shots in the dark to try…will
post a tester installer for people with installer crashes later today
or tomorrow.

Thanks,
Joshua

#82468
Aug 29, 2006 at 8:27pm

I’ve got ClamVirus installed. AFAIK this is only scanning for viruses
when asked to, and the last scanned was from February. The computer is
not used for much apart from Maxing and I never read mail on it.

Firewall is on, but on the other hand: Little Snitch have never asked if
it is OK for the Mac updates to call home. And Jitter 1.5.2 installs fine.

Best,
Trond

nesa wrote:
> shooting in the dark here, but are the any a

#82469
Aug 30, 2006 at 5:20pm

On Aug 28, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Trond Lossius wrote:

> The installer was unpacked using WinRAR before installing.

Long shot here. Can you try unpacking the installer with the built-in
windows explorer zip features. Since an MSI file internally has some
archived data, I’m wondering if WinRAR is trying to do something with
the .msi file which is not desired.

Thanks,
Joshua

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