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					<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Wireless video cameras switching with Jitter ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rob Ramirez</dc:creator>

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						<p>you want 4 to 6 different cameras into one computer? with no additional hardware?</p>
<p>sounds impossible to me.</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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						<p>It should be possible with a Mac Pro and PCI slots and this kind of sofware : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.varasoftware.com/products/wirecast/" rel="nofollow">http://www.varasoftware.com/products/wirecast/</a></p>
<p>In fact I think the thing is to switch from ports to let pass the chossen video through the computer (only one video source at a time)</p>
<p>But my laptop has not enough ports to play with&#8230;</p>
<p>
Another solution could be this kind of wireless IP camera :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&#038;childpagename=US%2FLayout&#038;cid=1143837459487&#038;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&#038;lid=5948728043B02" rel="nofollow">http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&#038;childpagename=US%2FLayout&#038;cid=1143837459487&#038;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&#038;lid=5948728043B02</a></p>
<p>With the &#8220;surveillance utility&#8221; you can switch from different sources. I have seen (but not tried) 4 at least with the GPL utility.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&#038;childpagename=US%2FLayout&#038;cid=1166859912899&#038;packedargs=sku%3D1143837459487&#038;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&#038;lid=1289959487B06&#038;displaypage=download" rel="nofollow">http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&#038;childpagename=US%2FLayout&#038;cid=1166859912899&#038;packedargs=sku%3D1143837459487&#038;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&#038;lid=1289959487B06&#038;displaypage=download</a></p>
<p>It sounds interesting.<br />
And Jitter could do something with that, no ?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Wireless video cameras switching with Jitter ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Mattijs</dc:creator>

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						<p>Quote: robtherich wrote on Wed, 11 June 2008 21:20<br />
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> you want 4 to 6 different cameras into one computer? with no additional hardware?<br />
> <br />
> sounds impossible to me.<br />
> <br />
> <br />
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<p>Well, not simultaneously. But with the DFG13941e digitizers with ASC drivers you could have 6 jit.qt.grabs and open/close them as needed. In fact you would only need 2 of the boxes. One box has 3 inputs between which you can switch.</p>
<p>Mattijs</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thank you very much Mattijs.<br />
and sorry for the long time gap before my answer&#8230;</p>
<p>You gave me a very good advise. </p>
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At the end of the Max patch, I&#8217;ll need to export the live video (mixed by the opened/closed jit.qt.grabs) to my DVI-VGA MacBook Pro connector. <br />
With which objects it is possible ? jit.windows ?<br />
(you see I&#8217;m a complete newbie&#8230;)</p>
<p>In fact I think that I need to use this connector because all the firewire ports will be used to input the cameras with the DFG13941e digitizers.<br />
I can use this Canopus product to digitalize (again ?) : <a href="http://www.av2p.com/video_canopus/canopus.php?n=Twin_Pact_100&#038;q=materiel-logiciel-video" rel="nofollow">http://www.av2p.com/video_canopus/canopus.php?n=Twin_Pact_100&#038;q=materiel-logiciel-video</a></p>
<p>Would it be OK this way ?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Paul</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Wireless video cameras switching with Jitter ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Mattijs</dc:creator>

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						<p>In general I would advise you to do the tutorials before starting your first serious attempt to a working program. </p>
<p>The fact that you say &#8216;export&#8217; makes me wonder whether you need the processed video in real time or as a rendered movie. I assumed the first, but if you need a movie as an end result I would look into jit.qt.record.</p>
<p>Mattijs</p>
<p>Quote: Paul Sellis wrote on Fri, 01 August 2008 19:55<br />
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> Thank you very much Mattijs.<br />
> and sorry for the long time gap before my answer&#8230;<br />
> <br />
> You gave me a very good advise. <br />
> <br />
> <br />
> At the end of the Max patch, I&#8217;ll need to export the live video (mixed by the opened/closed jit.qt.grabs) to my DVI-VGA MacBook Pro connector. <br />
> With which objects it is possible ? jit.windows ?<br />
> (you see I&#8217;m a complete newbie&#8230;)<br />
> <br />
> In fact I think that I need to use this connector because all the firewire ports will be used to input the cameras with the DFG13941e digitizers.<br />
> I can use this Canopus product to digitalize (again ?) : <a href="http://www.av2p.com/video_canopus/canopus.php?n=Twin_Pact_100&#038;q=materiel-logiciel-video" rel="nofollow">http://www.av2p.com/video_canopus/canopus.php?n=Twin_Pact_100&#038;q=materiel-logiciel-video</a><br />
> <br />
> Would it be OK this way ?<br />
> <br />
> Thanks<br />
> Paul<br />
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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						<p>Mattijs you are right. But I have not yet a Max licence. And that&#8217;s not me who will develop the patch but one colleague who knows more about sound than video in Max. It&#8217;s why I try to &#8220;prepare&#8221; his work&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s for a video out in real time. So it seems that jit.windows is the required object, no ?</p>
<p>
But I have another question ;-)<br />
DFG13941e digitizers assume that cameras are analogic (or numeric but with an analogic export).</p>
<p>Is there a solution with Max to switch from 4 or 6 IP Cameras ?</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Mattijs</dc:creator>

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						<p>Quote: Paul Sellis wrote on Sat, 02 August 2008 10:29<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
> Mattijs you are right. But I have not yet a Max licence. And that&#8217;s not me who will develop the patch but one colleague who knows more about sound than video in Max. It&#8217;s why I try to &#8220;prepare&#8221; his work&#8230;</p>
<p>I see. I expect that it will be hard to prepare for his work in a way that helps without the basic knowledge from the max tutorials.</p>
<p>> <br />
> Yes it&#8217;s for a video out in real time. So it seems that jit.windows is the required object, no ?</p>
<p>Assuming what you want to do is project the results it on a screen, yes. You would connect a beamer to your vga or dvi output like you would connect a monitor.</p>
<p>> <br />
> <br />
> But I have another question ;-)<br />
> DFG13941e digitizers assume that cameras are analogic (or numeric but with an analogic export).<br />
> <br />
> Is there a solution with Max to switch from 4 or 6 IP Cameras ?</p>
<p>Hm interesting, I have no experience with IP camera&#8217;s. Maybe someone else can help you out? I&#8217;m interested as well.</p>
<p>Mattijs</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>

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						<p>If the cameras send an rtsp stream, you can receive them with jit.qt.movie. </p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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						<p>Dan,</p>
<p>sorry for the delay of my answer.</p>
<p>- Are you sure that all RTSP streams are QuickTime compatible so they can be received with jit.qt.movie ?</p>
<p>- Do you think, like Mattijs advised me for analog cameras, that I could use jit.qt.grab for these RTSP streams to open/close them as needed ? (just to reduce CPU usage)</p>
<p>Thanks for you help<br />
Paul</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>You could also get a programmable analog video switcher and just use one analog capture card, and switch the input via RS-232. In fact, you could probably wire up a simple composite mixer with very little effort yourself. </p>
<p>Ive built a simple (non programmable) video switcher, and its not too hard. Adding an arduino and going that route would save you a lot of money over buying a few DFGs..</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Paul Sellis</dc:creator>

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						<p>Vade, thank you for your suggestion but I am afraid that programming an analog video switcher is too sophisticated for me&#8230;<br />
:-((</p>
<p>I have found some video switchers :<br />
<a href="http://www.amabilidade2002.com/scart35.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.amabilidade2002.com/scart35.htm</a><br />
And this way I could manage mixing analog cameras without Max, I think.</p>
<p>But I thought it was a good way to use Max/jitter to switch from IP Wireless cameras using RTSP streams. But does it really works ?&#8230; <br />
I&#8217;m not sure that the RTSP protocol from these IP cameras is compatible to be received by jit.qt.movie</p>
<p>Any feedback ?</p>
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