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					<title><![CDATA[zl group oddity]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jamesson</dc:creator>

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						<p>I took the message out from this</p>
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<p> copied pasted it and sent it to this</p>
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<p>Why don&#8217;t the lcds look identical?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: zl group oddity]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jamesson</dc:creator>

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						<p>In fact, a direct connection ([zl group 32]<>[zl iter 2]) also looks wierd. It&#8217;s like it only draws one out of every 10 points</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: zl group oddity]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>The problem is that you use <strong>pak</strong> where every inlets triggers the output. You could probably do something like this:</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: zl group oddity]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/zl-group-oddity/#post-220930</link>
					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jamesson</dc:creator>

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						<p>Nope &#8211; same problem</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: zl group oddity]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Chris Muir</dc:creator>

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						<p>I think that the use of the number 32 in zl gather didn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>(edited to use lineto, instead of setpixel)</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: zl group oddity]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jamesson</dc:creator>

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						<p>If you look at the helpfile for zl, both [zl 20 group] and [zl group 20] are ok. Now, lineto is more accurate in terms of drawing. I am guessing this is some kind of max thing. Is there some global sample rate, variable or constant, that determines how fast setpixel draws?</p>
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