Max for Live Ultimate Zen Guide


I’m often teaching Max6 & Max for Live frameworks and I decided to challenge myself and to write a short guide about Max for Live both in french and english.

I had that idea during one of my latest course with a person and I made it!

This is a self-published book usin leanpub.com platform. I had to learn markdown language which was easy.

Using leanpub, I can revise, add more content and republish the book for free and easily. My readers are even noticed when I publish new versions and I like this way of writing and creating content a lot.

I wrote it in french and english.

What you get is an unusually lucid look at how Max lives inside Live – how it integrates with what Live can do. That makes it essential reading for anyone wanting to tinker with Live and make it their own. From there (see the Table of Contents below), it moves into MIDI and audio, effects and instruments, making it an effective bridge to a more in-depth education in Max or patching in general.

- Peter Kirn / CDM Blogs

How did this project use Max?

This book is all about Max for Live and thus a lot of Max too. It also reminds a bit of Ableton Live to readers


October 2, 2013 | 10:02 am

Thank you Nicolas


October 2, 2013 | 10:05 am

Your links are missing the : after https


October 2, 2013 | 10:26 am

Thanks for your precious feedbacks.


October 2, 2013 | 10:27 am

"Are you kidding ?"

haha, well… just download the French version, it’s free:

https://leanpub.com/le-guide-ultime-et-zen-de-max-for-live

(and by the looks of it, not very thorough)

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"to write a short guide about Max for Live both in french and english in 1 week."

this is not something to boast or to think of as some ‘honorable’ challenge.
where education and helping others is concerned, you either take the time it takes to help others, or you’re just pretending to help. don’t fuck around, this statement makes you simply look like you’re completely self-absorbed.


October 2, 2013 | 10:37 am

1 week to write, but practising it since the beginning, dudes.
my audience likes to know about how I organize myself, what I am doing while working etc. This is why I wrote 1 week.

About taking time.
I’m teaching since a lot time, and about Ableton Live & Max since 3 intensive years. I totally agree with you while you are saying "you [] take the time it takes to help others"
You cannot imagine the time I’m giving for people.

AFAIK considering the messages I had about that guide, it has already helped a lot and this is the most important thing for me.

Hope you’ll enjoy :)


October 2, 2013 | 10:40 am

RAJA dude, can you develop the lack of rigor please ?
I’m interested by such statements, but it lack of examples!!

Anyway, I feel and I supposed that a bit: some haters already hate.
At least, respect the work of other persons and especially of users interested by this guide.


October 2, 2013 | 10:44 am

"it has already helped a lot and this is the most important thing for me."

indeed! congrats. (though ‘help’ is determined not by what people say, but by with what they actually do with it… as in: it only really helps them if they go on to do something great with it…. everything else is pure subjectivity…. so i doubt you can tell the actual benefit so soon after the release. but then again, maybe you have easier expectations of yourself than i have of myself :D)

i still think the whole thing could do without that ‘in 1 week’ statement, it doesn’t actually tell anything about your organization, it’s just a bragging point(and some folks may misinterpret it like i do: thinking you care more about speed than content)… not something that is very relevant from a philanthropic/educational standpoint… but that’s just my opinion.

in any case, i see now that it’s only 15% complete?
(so the 1 week thing becomes even less relevant)
but this makes more sense, and i wish you all the best on full and thorough completion.


October 2, 2013 | 10:51 am

oh sorry i didn’t read this in time: "I’m interested by such statements, but it lack of examples!!"

the only example available for what i’m saying is your statement about ’1 week’…. plus, your english version isn’t even complete… so you should probably not get so worked up about not having examples if you don’t even put that criticism on yourself for not having actually completed it.
you want another example, though?
here it is: "had to learn markdown language which was easy"
you probably think this tells people that you somehow ‘organized’ to learn that… and also that saying it’s easy will encourage them to learn it themselves?
to me, this doesn’t really explain how you learned it(would’ve been much better to just post links to the educational resource you used to learn it), and doesn’t expound upon why it was so easy. this part of it also has nothing to do with Max.
these statements you make aren’t very well thought out in my opinion from an educator’s standpoint.

"RAJA dude, can you develop the lack of rigor please ?"

If you have such an egocentric and self-absorbed view of educating others, and you stubbornly cling to seeing that as infallible, why the fuck would i change my style for you?


October 2, 2013 | 11:13 am

one last thing, no hard feelings overall, though, i’m mainly just trying to push you harder, while also playing devil’s advocate because i have this lingering question in my mind as to where your intent really lies because of all these ‘fluff’ statements in the description.
and i also take the liberty to act as freely critical as i need to be because i expect no one would take it too seriously now that i’ve dubbed myself ‘the resident asswipe’.

so if anything really bothers you about my statements: ignore me(it really isn’t a big deal).

of course, you should do whatever you think is right, and i congratulate you again on feeling good about it and whatever positive response you’ve gotten so far.


October 2, 2013 | 4:41 pm

what’s going on here? wtf, a guy writes a book and does some cheesy promo. I can’t think of something that leaves me more indifferent.(although I find the book not uninteresting. Won’t buy it probably though)
have a nice day


October 3, 2013 | 3:52 am

The fact is that it seems really overpriced compared to books like the ones written by Cipriani and Giri, which are really carefully and cleverly written and published…


October 3, 2013 | 11:25 am

Release a book when its well researched and finished if you want money for it. Otherwise release it for free.
Simple really.
And I’d get a translator to run through it :)


October 3, 2013 | 12:25 pm

I bought this guide in French when it came out… There’s totally a lack of french documentation in the world of Max 6 and Max for live. It’s why I bought it : 30$-coupon = 20$..Not bad… But if you don’t need the french version, 39,99$ it’s amzingly costy for that guide !!!! There’s no patch that we can download to follow the guide for example. I think that julien is trying to do too much stuff at once and the results is all is stuff is average or aborted : c programming book for arduino , is Patreon… My suggestion Julien : focus on one thing at a time and do it nicely.


October 4, 2013 | 4:22 am

+1


October 4, 2013 | 7:23 am

Julien, your work is obviously very interesting, and I have vested interest in this topic as I’ll be joining you soon as one of the many Artist / Educators floating around The Internet.

It’s easy to say haters gonna hate etc, but it’s a bit of a weak argument. When it comes to learning, people are (on the whole) quite fair with their opinions. There’s something concrete about trusting the person who is teaching you, which must play a big role in the psychology of learning. It might be truthful to say you wrote it in a week, but it doesn’t fill me with confidence. How is it relevant to the content of the book?

I have Cipriani and Giri’s book, which is great, but a little bit too academic for my tastes. There’s obviously a space between academia and people on youtube rambling on for 5 minutes at the start of a tutorial for great content to thrive, but it seems that the frame it sits in is quite important. There’s enough people shouting ‘ME!’ on The Internet without you suggesting tweets and hashtag stuff. If people like it and they want to share it, they get to choose how they do that.

Hope things go well for the English translation.

Mike


October 5, 2013 | 1:36 pm

Mike S wrote:

"It’s easy to say haters gonna hate etc, but it’s a bit of a weak argument. When it comes to learning, people are (on the whole) quite fair with their opinions. There’s something concrete about trusting the person who is teaching you, which must play a big role in the psychology of learning. It might be truthful to say you wrote it in a week, but it doesn’t fill me with confidence. How is it relevant to the content of the book? "

That comment about trust is so right on. The teaching/learning process can be confounded by the same god-complex that a doctor might have.

Great words, Mike!

(edit: awwww fuck, forgot… i should’ve logged in as ‘karaokaze’ if i’m going to say something nice and productive :p)


October 5, 2013 | 1:39 pm

haha, ya…
+1

good/solid/patient words of advice, Mike S.


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