Mattijs

The LiveGrabber plugins are a set of Max For Live plugins that send device and track parameters from Ableton Live to any device on the network that supports Open Sound Control (OSC).

livegrabber

Looks cool! I want to move from midi to OSC for controlling Resolume. Does anyone know if tempo sync can be sent via OSC?

Looks cool!  I want to move from midi to OSC for controlling Resolume.  Does anyone know if tempo sync can be sent via OSC?


Tempo sync can be sent via OSC but it's not very common. Perhaps it's time for a SetGrabber for all global Live parameters? :)

@ stu Check these max4live devices I've developed last year for Resolume. They are specially made as an OSC bridge between Ableton and Resolume Avenue. Following the instructions of the Resolume team I've connected all the vital functions of Resolume Avenue to Ableton, tempo included if I remember correctly. Otherwise I have the tempo patch (m4l device) in my HD and I could habd it over to you. 

http://media.resolume.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6747

 Let me know! Greetings, pandelisdiamantides@gmail.com

@ Mattijs I've received some e-mails asking me if we could connect our devices as to create a "more complete" (as they wrote) OSC bridge from Ableton to any other software/device. I never found enough free time to get into that but it looks like we could do something soon. Let me know if you have time for this! Greetings, pandelisdiamantides@gmail.com

@ stu Check these max4live devices I've developed last year for Resolume. They are specially made as an OSC bridge between Ableton and Resolume Avenue. Following the instructions of the Resolume team I've connected all the vital functions of Resolume Avenue to Ableton, tempo included if I remember correctly. Otherwise I have the tempo patch (m4l device) in my HD and I could habd it over to you. http://media.resolume.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6747 Let me know! Greetings, pandelisdiamantides@gmail.com

@ Mattijs I've received some e-mails asking me if we could connect our devices as to create a "more complete" (as they wrote) OSC bridge from Ableton to any other software/device. I never found enough free time to get into that but it looks like we could do something soon. Let me know if you have time for this! Greetings, pandelisdiamantides@gmail.com


Just checked it out. Tempo is included :)

With tempo sync I imagine stu means actually making Resolume and Ableton play their beats and bars at the same time. When communicating the tempo and a resync on play start like in your patch, the apps might be synchronized initially but it misses a way to keep them running in sync for a longer time or when the tempo in ableton is changed during play.

Using OSC to make sure the apps continue to play in sync should be possible though, theoretically even more accurate than with a midi clock since OSC messages can carry time tags. But it would require a special implementation on Resolume's side to take the time tags into account to sync their playhead accurately. Also, there would have to be a mechanism to adjust the slaved playhead to new sync info in an eased way rather than having a small time jump whenever a sync messages comes in.

Hi Mattijs, I msg'd Pandelis on the resolume forum over 7 months ago now, how time flys...:)

I've found that Pandelis ResolumeM4L devices need OSC & Bundles enabled @ Resolume preferences, but your devices only work with resolume with bundles disabled in Resolume.

Both used together, could eliminate the use of midi mostly between live and resolume hopefully :)

Syncing the playheads from ableton session view to resolume clips could best be solved using ms pinky method...?

Hi Mattijs, I msg'd Pandelis on the resolume forum over 7 months ago now, how time flys...:)
I've found that Pandelis ResolumeM4L devices need OSC & Bundles enabled  @ Resolume preferences, but your devices only work with resolume with bundles disabled in Resolume.
Both used together, could eliminate the use of midi mostly between live and resolume hopefully :)
Syncing the playheads from ableton session view to resolume clips could best be solved using ms pinky method...?


@ Matthijs: thanx for your reply. I will take a closer look to the available devices and see what I can do to improve them! Let you know when I have something.

@ Duncan: unfortunately time flies on busy times, indeed! I don't remember if I replied to your message at Resolume forum. I have received quite some mail concerning those devices and I replied to those willing to build upon the devices. Unfortunately, I never heard anything back neither I saw anybody building upon the devices. Luckily Matthijs came with his tools and refresh my mind on that.

@ All: By no means I say that Matthijs builded upon my work. Maybe unnecessary to say - just to avoid any misunderstandings. I have to admit though that I am delighted seeing other people addressing similar tech issues.

@ Duncan: unfortunately time flies on busy times, indeed! I don't remember if I replied to your message at Resolume forum. I have received quite some mail concerning those devices and I replied to those willing to build upon the devices. Unfortunately, I never heard anything back neither I saw anybody building upon the devices. Luckily Matthijs came with his tools and refresh my mind on that. 

@ All: By no means I say that Matthijs builded upon my work. Maybe unnecessary to say - just to avoid any misunderstandings. I have to admit though that I am delighted seeing other people addressing similar tech issues.


A little surprise for Resolume-lovers; LiveGrabber-like plugins tuned for Resolume:

Please let me know on their forum if you have any feedback :)

Btw, no OSC tempo sync included, still need midi for that ;)

Thank you for these wonderful plugins, what you have created means osc via M4L to resolume is now very stable. and I am going to test it out at a big festival this weekend

Hi Mattjs
Thank you for these wonderful plugins, what you have created means osc via M4L to resolume is now very stable. and I am going to test it out at a big festival this weekend


Update: In version 2.7 you can now use Clip Envelopes to send out OSC by using the VoidGrabber plugin. Let me know if you run into any issues or new ideas!

Hi Matthijs. From your home town (;-) a question regarding GrabberReceiver. I suppose C74 has not implemented the built-in java yet, as you mention in the manual. I do get a lot of java-class errors and there seems to be no OSC coming into Ableton Live 9.1.5 on my MB Pro running OSX 10.7.5. Consequently, ParamGrabber is not able to 'learn' parameters. I'm using Geco, sending OSC via the correct port and the new UDP server is listening properly. Any ideas how this happens? Thanks, Jan-Bas

Unfortunately Cycling 74 apparently never got around to properly supporting java in Max For Live, so in the latest version (3.4) we have completely removed all java-enabled functionality (i.e. auto-finding OSC sources and destinations).

The current home for LiveGrabber is here: 

Unfortunately Cycling 74 apparently never got around to  properly supporting java in Max For Live, so in the latest version (3.4) we have completely removed all java-enabled functionality (i.e. auto-finding OSC sources and destinations).

The current home for LiveGrabber is here: https://showsync.info/livegrabber/ 