Finn Hansen

I have this function, to dump data from coll and load them to another. The function, works fine when i click the button "dump", but if let my script send the dump, it fails.

coll dump error.amxd

I have this function, to dump data from coll and load them to another. The function, works fine when i click the button "dump", but if let my script send the dump, it fails.
What i'm  doing wrong.

Hey.
I have this function, to dump data from coll and load them to another. 

coll-dump-error

I'm afraid you attached a wrong file.
Would the discussion in this thread answer your questions?
https://cycling74.com/forums/copying-a-coll-into-another-coll-efficiently

You are right, that was the wrong format, it should be better now.
that thread did nor help me.
I have a list of cuepoints and midi clips stored in the first coll. i want to create  a new format i another coll, where i bind some of data.
It works fine when i click the dump button, but if i use a bang to send the dump command, it does not work.
 


So it took me to 2 days to put in an extra join, should have done that from the start.


coll. dump error

benj3737

I'm trying to understand how to adapt my maxforlive midi devices for MPE. I have a simple device with a midiin object going into a midi parse object, then to a midi parse object, then into a midiformat object, then top a midiout object.

I have MPE mode enabled in the patcher inspector, but the midi parse and midi format devices seem to remove some of the pitch bend data.

If I have a midiin going straight to a midiout, then it works ok. This patch should show what I mean.

Does anyone have any insight? I'd like to be able to, say, filter out cc messages, but have the MPE pitch bends still go through.

Hello,
I'm trying to understand how to adapt my maxforlive midi devices for MPE. I have a simple device with a midiin object going into a midi parse object, then to a midi parse object, then into a midiformat object, then top a midiout object.

Hello,
I'm trying to understand how to adapt my maxforlive midi devices for MPE. I have a simple device with a midiin object going into a mi

mpe-confusion-max-for-live

perhaps you need "mpeparse" and "mpemidiformat"

Thanks for the info!
I guess I do. After some research, I'm still pretty confused.
If I want to pass all MPE data, except for for filtering out CC messages, what's a good way to approach it?
I understand using mpeparse to split the mpe data and remove CC messages. 
What should go in between the mpeparse and the mpeformat objects? Do I need to have 16 midi format objects, and route each one into a different input on mpeformat?
Thanks
Ben

Following up on this. I'd really appreciate some help. I think I'm missing something obvious but can't get my head around MPE with Max for Live.

I have a Role Seaboard. I create a wavetable in Ableton and out this code in a Max Midi Effect before the wavetable.

If the toggle is set to 0, the midiin device is routed directly to midiout and everything works as expected.
If the toggle is set to 1, the midi data goes to an mpeparse object, then to a midi format, then out to midiout. 
I send the 'voice number' outlet of mpeparse to set the channel on midi parse.
However, when I do this, pitchbend data gets truncated to semitones. I'd like to be able to glide between notes

an anyone see what I'm doing wrong? For what it's worth, I just want to pass the midi data through, except filter out the sustain pedal. 

Thank you
Ben

I have to say I'm surprised nobody seems to be have a handle on this stuff. I'd think folks would be all over the idea of Manipulating MPE data from Live with Max.
I've gone pretty deep into the tutorials and the built-in devices, but can't seem to simply filter out cc's while retaining the rest of the mpe data.

I'll get there... I have some Lightpads I'm eager to play with, after I get this mixing console sorted.

I'm encountering the same problem. Any solution?


@pao rosella I think I got ahold of this. Here's a device I made that blocks specific ccs while respecting MPE dates. hope it helps!

@Benj3737: I am hoping you're still around because you seem to be the only person I can find online who's tried something similar to what I'm looking to do with MPE: do you have any idea how I could get hold of separate per-note duration data (on/off for each MIDI in)? I have been able to do this monophonically with MIDI IN into 'borax', but do you think you can help me work out how to essentially get MPE/polyphonic Duration Output data? I would be so glad of your help!

MPE confusion max for live

manmusic

node.js is a complex script for me. Has anyone ever tried to do this?

I don't understand how to edit a script with this line of code:

ELECTRON_RUN_AS_NODE=1 open-stage-control path/to/open-stage-control/resources/app/ [options]

I would like to run 'OpenStage control' from 'node.js'.
node.js is a complex script for me. Has anyone ever tried to do this?

I would like to run 'OpenStage control' from 'node.js'.
node.js is a complex script for me. 

openstagecontrol-and-node-js

From my understanding, the OpenStage Control server runs with Electron, but you can launch it through nodejs only, and I think this is what you want, as I'm not sure Electron apps are compatible with nodejs for Max, if that makes sens. My best bet would be to try the instructions under "Running with node" in the link you provided, and just ignore the line you quoted.

Also, depending on what you want to achieve, there might be some simpler solution. I don't know OpenStage Control capabilities, but for example Max natively handles sending OSC to any server.

there is an OpenStage control server that works fine as a diamon. Wish I could launch this app in one go. I lack knowledge.

If you just want to launch the OpenStage Control daemon from Max and nothing else you can try accessing Terminal/Command line through Max and run the line in your first post. If so, search for "terminal" or "command line" in the forum!

I can indeed launch the daemon via a command line. But I would really like to integrate "Open Stage control" and all the parameters useful for its operation directly from the Max or M4L interface. OpenStage Control indeed works with Electron. The developer offers me to integrate this command line into Node.

"node path/to/open-stage-control/resources/app --debug --port 9000"

I don't know how to translate it for max object....

OpenStageControl and Node.js 

taavet

is there any possibility to use syphon with glcore? It seems to work only with gl2

is there any possibility to use syphon with glcore? It seems to work only with gl2
or I'm doing something terribly wrong?

glcore-and-syphon

Did you update Syphon on the Package Manager? It's currently at version 1.0.9. It's working for me...

yes, I also have the latest update. and you are using glcore, not gl2?

the Syphon package was recently (couple months ago) updated for glcore support. Make sure you have the latest Syphon package from the package manager, and that you don't have any other older syphon externals in your search path.

Tnx, Rob!
that was the case - I had a couple of old versions in Max search path! I deleted them all and installed new package again and it works!

glcore and syphon

diablodale

Hi. This is for Cycling74 internal team. Were the series of bugs I reported in 2014 and 2015 on Max's YUV handling fixed with Max 8? Or are these bugs now permanently baked into Max for "legacy compatibility behavior"?

These are the bugs that cause shifts in YUV tint, color, saturation, and brightness due to incorrect and inconsistent implementation of formulas used for YUV manipulation, YUV to/from RGB, and colorspaces.

To date, I've told my customers to avoid YUV on Max due to these bugs. Asking so I can update my recommendations or continue to discourage.

Hi. This is for Cycling74 internal team. 

yuv-bugs-fixed-in-max-8-corrupts-tint-color-saturation-and-brightness

hi Dale, the jit.movie and jit.record objects were updated around 2017 I believe for proper HD color profile support in both video engines. No changes have been made to the jit.*uyvy* matrix objects or built-in shaders.

Got it. I'll continue to advise my customers to avoid uyvy (technically YCbCr) on Max.

Underlying compression formats are usually chroma-based. When jit.movie decompresses and writes the r,g,b components into a jit_matrix...in what colorspace is that jit_matrix with red, green, and blue component pixels? That is...what transform matrix was used to convert the chroma-compressed datastream into an RGB datastream? sRGB, BT.601, BT.709, or BT.2020? These all have different primaries, whitepoints, etc.

Keep in mind (both you and readers) that the BT.709 seen with most HD/bluray videos is the ENcoding matrix and how the compressed datastream is tagged. The DEcoder can DEcode it into any colorspace it wants. That is the "handshake" that typically occurs between a Bluray player and a TV. They agree on the  colorspace (often BT.709) and then the Bluray device decodes into BT.709. The same holds for jit.movie. jit.movie is choosing to decode into...something. What is that?

with the viddll engine the YUV decoder colorspace is determined by the ffmpeg frame colorspace member, if present, and will be set to either bt.709 or bt.601, and defaults to bt.601 if not present. with avf engine the handshake happens in the avf internals.

ewww. That means it is inconsistent. The RGB datastreams output by jit.movie change colorspace depending on the source material and sometimes unknown "avf internals" logic. Given that, all the processing in objects/nodes after that can't know how to manipulate RGB datastreams consistently and in high-fidelity.

When I did my research on this in 2014, I realized that Max can't robustly fix this until there is metadata that stamps every jit_matrix with the colorspace of the data it contains. That metadata is needed by all later objects so they know how to apply formulas/matrices. It will be difficult to do this metadata out-of-band because of the unknown logic in parts like "avf internals".

The unrobust fix is to chose a single colorspace for ALL jit_matrix and then to force all decoders/processors/shaders to always output in that single colorspace.

Looking at a competitor, TouchDesigner is also borked https://derivative.ca/UserGuide/SRGB.

I started to write my own Max colorspace fixer object in 2015, but as I got into it didn't see tremendous value for the effort when Max would skew color again on any manipulation including its display with jit.window or jit.pwindow.

YUV bugs fixed in Max 8? corrupts tint, color, saturation, and brightness

Tj Shredder

I just made my first max external, a simple APDSR envelope (ADSR doesn't cut it...)

I wonder if or how it is possible to have the parameters like #x arguments. A #1 for the initial value is not allowed... 

I would like to type in parameters without typing @attributes...

(I know, I could as well just use an abstraction...)

I just made my first max external, a simple APDSR envelope (ADSR doesn't cut it...)
I wonder if or how it is possible to have the parameters like #x arguments. A #1 for the initial value is not allowed... 
I would like to type in parameters without typing @attributes...
This is the envelope:

(I know, I could as well just use an abstraction...)


I just made my first max external, a simple APDSR envelope (ADSR doesn't cut it...)
I wonder if or how it is possible to have the ... 

rnbo-to-create-max-externals

Hi TJ, you saved your rnbo~ as a separate patch, so, it's not included in your post.
Anyway, with rnbo~, the way to go is to create [param] objects inside, which are exposed as attributes. You can't use arguments.

RNBO to create max externals...

I would like to create a clock with all division (or multiplier) available.

In synchronization with the global transport of Max perfectly.

A clock that give, in the same time, bang messages in 32n, 16n, 8n, 4n, 2n, 1n

But you can understand what I need in a better way :

I would like to create a clock with all division (or multiplier) available.
In synchronization with the global transport of Max perfectly.
A clock that give, in the same time, bang messages in 32n, 16n, 8n, 4n, 2n, 1n
In ternary too 32nt, 16nt, 8nt...

I did something but it's not acute...
But you can understand what I need in a better way :

Hello,
I would like to create a clock with all division (or multiplier) available.
In synchronization with the global transport of Max perfe

how-to-create-a-clock-with-all-division-or-multiplier-bang

You might want to look into using phasor~ or sync~ as a clock. 

Then paired with rate~ you can get any division you want. 


You can just divide the 'Raw Ticks' from transport by different numbers.


how to create a clock with all division or multiplier (bang)

Emmanuel Dardy

I followed a tutorial for a basic quantizer and improved it so now it's able to choose one of 7 modes of the major scale (and display the mode name) and everything works as intended (I'm sure there is a simpler way to do this but I'm a beginner so it'll do).

But I can't imagine something to dynamically change the root note. I could just say +7 if I want G but it'll transpose the whole thing, not scale it.

I just want a box with a menu in my main sequencer and select, say, "G#" and "locrian" and the instruments in the patch will play G# locrian. I'm sure there's a solution but I'm struggling, any tip ?

quantizer.PNG

I just want a box with a menu in my main sequencer and select, say, "G#" and "locrian" and the instruments in the patch will play G# locrian. I'm sure there's a solution but I'm struggling, any tip ?



Hi,
I followed a tutorial for a basic quantizer and improved it so now it's able to choose one of 7 modes of the major scale (and display ... 

i'm-making-a-midi-quantizer-i-want-to-change-root-note-without-transposition

I'm making a midi quantizer & I want to change root note without transposition

Pi4 B

... and forget that you initially passed it as a free upgrade.

... and forget that you initially passed it as a free upgrade.
Cheers.

if-you-get-max-to-work-on-linux-i-promise-i-wil-buy-rnbo

Maybe for 30 days in wine? At least a decade ago, Maxplay would run in wine...; - )
You can export VST for Linux. It doesn't export Linux externals...
Anyway there are enough options to turn Pd patches into plugins... And Pd advanced as well...


The fact that i have many option to export things to Linux is awesome, but i need another OS to get there :(
The thing here is that i would really like to remove Mac and Windows from my life, i keep using my old macbook just because of Max.....

The moment Cycling was aquired by Ableton I gave up dreaming of it...:-(
As I am familiar with MacOS and I am still not so much with Linux, it wasn't too hard. And I would not swap my new M2 to any Intel based machine anyway... 

When Cycling ported Max to Windows, there was the claim that a port to Linux would be much easier...

I still hope Ableton/Cycling will jump on the CLAP train... I would love to create CLAP plugins. The per voice modulation capabilities alone would make it worthwhile...



If you get Max to work on Linux i promise i wil buy RNBO...

Paulo Murphy de Freitas

I'm trying to implement a dry/wet control for a device I'm developing. I have a dry/wet live.dial that runs through two scale objects (they are inverted in relation to each other) that each control dry and wet live.gain objects that get mixed together at the output. This works well but there's a large dip in output volume around the crossover gain points where level drops massively. What would be a good way to solve this? What would be another way to go about implementing a dry/wet control?

I'm trying to implement a dry/wet control for a device I'm developing. 

dry-wet-knob-with-gain-compensation

Hi there, you'll get more useful answers if you attach your code excerpt (select you dry/wet thingy, Edit->Copy Compressed, then paste here).
Here is one version using live.gain~ (tricky part with live.gain~ is that it speaks dBs)
The core of the approach lies in MSP Delay Tutorials 1 and 2 (Help -> Reference -> etc.)


Hi Jean-Francois, this was exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated. And I'll be sure to check out those tutorials, thanks for the tip.

Using the code you posted, I altered the dial range to 0-100, and the scale accordingly, so I could show a 0 to 100% caption under the dial.

Posting in case this altered version can be useful for anyone. Could be useful as a max for live device starting point template with dry/wet control.

Dry wet knob with gain compensation 

Ben Bracken

We are excited to announce the availability of our 

 as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with 

. The Eventide H9000 is a rack-sized multi-effects unit with powerful DSP processing capabilities and numerous high quality built-in effects. We’re excited to enable RNBO export for this and open the door to unique custom studio effects and instruments without the strict limitations of other hardware platforms.

RNBO support is similar to the existing Gen support, but more streamlined, and uses the built-in 

, rather than a watcher patcher, to manage the export process. Eventually, all of these changes will be rolled into the standard release versions of RNBO and this package.

Get the preview version of the RNBO package (v1.2.7-eventide.0):

Get the preview version of the "Eventide H9000" package (v1.0.4-beta.3):

We’d love to hear any experiences and feedback from RNBO users with access to an H9000. To join the discussion, use the 

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to bring...

eventide-h9000-package-for-rnbo-public-beta

Eventide H9000 Package for RNBO - Public Beta

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new 

The full list of improvements are below, or on the Max 8.6.2 release page:

: Updated LOM documentation to the state on 12.0.x.

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2.

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

Cycling '74 Forums

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to...

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2. This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

So it took me to 2 days to put in an extra join, should have done that from the start.

@Benj3737: I am hoping you're still around because you seem to be the only person I can find online who's tried something similar to what...

I can indeed launch the daemon via a command line. But I would really like to integrate "Open Stage control" and all the parameters useful...

Tnx, Rob! that was the case - I had a couple of old versions in Max search path! I deleted them all and installed new package again and it...

Looking at a competitor, TouchDesigner is also borked https://derivative.ca/UserGuide/SRGB. I started to write my own Max colorspace fixer...

Hi TJ, you saved your rnbo~ as a separate patch, so, it's not included in your post. Anyway, with rnbo~, the way to go is to create [param]...

You can just divide the 'Raw Ticks' from transport by different numbers.

Hi, I followed a tutorial for a basic quantizer and improved it so now it's able to choose one of 7 modes of the major scale (and display...

The moment Cycling was aquired by Ableton I gave up dreaming of it...:-( As I am familiar with MacOS and I am still not so much with Linux,...

Hi Jean-Francois, this was exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated. And I'll be sure to check out those tutorials, thanks for the...