AirTunes and Max/MSP


    Feb 04 2009 | 9:59 am
    Has anyone used AirTunes, where you can stream audio through iTunes to an Airport Express router connected to speakers? If so, has anyone hacked it to play audio from Max/MSP? I found a program "Airfoil" that allows you to do that, but it's $25 and I was thinking one of you may have tried this out already. That's why we got Max/MSP, right, so that we never have to buy another program?
    Andrew

    • Feb 04 2009 | 12:34 pm
      If I remember correctly, an encrypted audio stream has to go to the Airport Express - somehow the folks at rogue amoeba either got permission from Apple (don't think so), reverse engineered the encryption key, or found the key posted online or something... This is all pure speculation.
      Dan
      On 2/4/09 4:59 AM, "Andrew C. Smith" wrote:
      > Has anyone used AirTunes, where you can stream audio through iTunes to > an Airport Express router connected to speakers? If so, has anyone > hacked it to play audio from Max/MSP? I found a program "Airfoil" > that allows you to do that, but it's $25 and I was thinking one of you > may have tried this out already. That's why we got Max/MSP, right, so > that we never have to buy another program? > > Andrew
      -- Dan Nigrin - Defective Records 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / Jack OS X / Major Malfunction http://defectiverecords.com http://jackosx.com
    • Feb 04 2009 | 10:49 pm
      follow the saga further here:
    • Feb 05 2009 | 6:05 am
      Thanks, so now my only question is the statement, "Update: JustePort is not Windows-only. Thanks to mono it runs under GNU/Linux, MacOS X and Windows." on http://nanocr.eu/2004/08/11/reversing-airtunes/
      Do I have to download Mono and build it from the source code? I am not at all a developer, and I'm not really sure how this stuff works. It looks like something that would make a great external--has anyone used it, and if so, what does the "send to IP address" thing mean?
      On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Tim Sutton wrote: > > follow the saga further here: > > http://nanocr.eu/2008/03/15/rogue-developers/ >
    • Feb 05 2009 | 6:20 am
      Sorry everyone, I ended up getting it to work after looking more at the online mono documentation. Turns out that JustePort is useful for sending OGG Vorbis and Apple's .m4a files, but that's really nothing you can't do with iTunes. Well, if anyone figures out a way to get this to stream audio from a source like Soundflower or JackOSX then it would be incredible, but I'm not really holding my breath. Thanks for the support.
      Andrew
      On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Smith wrote: > Thanks, so now my only question is the statement, "Update: JustePort > is not Windows-only. Thanks to mono it runs under GNU/Linux, MacOS X > and Windows." on http://nanocr.eu/2004/08/11/reversing-airtunes/ > > Do I have to download Mono and build it from the source code? I am > not at all a developer, and I'm not really sure how this stuff works. > It looks like something that would make a great external--has anyone > used it, and if so, what does the "send to IP address" thing mean? > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Tim Sutton wrote: >> >> follow the saga further here: >> >> http://nanocr.eu/2008/03/15/rogue-developers/ >> >
    • Feb 05 2009 | 6:28 am
      I've read in the iTunes SDK and some list discussions that there is an undocumented way to stream any iTunes developed app live using the movie controller in it....has anyone created an iTunes .app that can take Max/MSP (and in the future Max for Live) output and stream it to generate some OpenGL output on the iPhone?
      I never seem to get a response on this list, forgive my ignorance, I'm trying to find my place, I come from a traditional C++ development background and now Objective-C, so the most important questions for visual Max/Msp apps I'm leaving for last until I figure out the bottom up capabilities.
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Andrew Smith wrote:
      > Sorry everyone, I ended up getting it to work after looking more at > the online mono documentation. Turns out that JustePort is useful for > sending OGG Vorbis and Apple's .m4a files, but that's really nothing > you can't do with iTunes. Well, if anyone figures out a way to get > this to stream audio from a source like Soundflower or JackOSX then it > would be incredible, but I'm not really holding my breath. Thanks for > the support. > > Andrew > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Smith > wrote: >> Thanks, so now my only question is the statement, "Update: JustePort >> is not Windows-only. Thanks to mono it runs under GNU/Linux, MacOS X >> and Windows." on http://nanocr.eu/2004/08/11/reversing-airtunes/ >> >> Do I have to download Mono and build it from the source code? I am >> not at all a developer, and I'm not really sure how this stuff works. >> It looks like something that would make a great external--has anyone >> used it, and if so, what does the "send to IP address" thing mean? >> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Tim Sutton >> wrote: >>> >>> follow the saga further here: >>> >>> http://nanocr.eu/2008/03/15/rogue-developers/ >>> >>
    • Feb 05 2009 | 2:43 pm
      Back when the Airport Express came out, we thought a lot about doing this on the Jack OS X team, but we had (still have) extremely limited developer resources to do it, and furthermore we were nervous at the time that Apple might come after us. I suppose now seeing as how they have not gone after Rogue Amoeba, we could reconsider it.
      If anyone is interested and has C/C++ development background, we would love to have you work on it with us... -- Dan Nigrin - Defective Records 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / Jack OS X / Major Malfunction http://defectiverecords.com http://jackosx.com
      On 2/5/09 1:20 AM, "Andrew Smith" wrote:
      > Sorry everyone, I ended up getting it to work after looking more at > the online mono documentation. Turns out that JustePort is useful for > sending OGG Vorbis and Apple's .m4a files, but that's really nothing > you can't do with iTunes. Well, if anyone figures out a way to get > this to stream audio from a source like Soundflower or JackOSX then it > would be incredible, but I'm not really holding my breath. Thanks for > the support. > > Andrew > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Smith wrote: >> Thanks, so now my only question is the statement, "Update: JustePort >> is not Windows-only. Thanks to mono it runs under GNU/Linux, MacOS X >> and Windows." on http://nanocr.eu/2004/08/11/reversing-airtunes/ >> >> Do I have to download Mono and build it from the source code? I am >> not at all a developer, and I'm not really sure how this stuff works. >> It looks like something that would make a great external--has anyone >> used it, and if so, what does the "send to IP address" thing mean? >> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Tim Sutton wrote: >>> >>> follow the saga further here: >>> >>> http://nanocr.eu/2008/03/15/rogue-developers/
    • Aug 06 2010 | 11:02 am
      I have Airfoil, it doesn't cost that much. In the airfoil window, I choos MAX5 as the application to which the audio stream refers. It works. Both playing a sound file in groove~ and using a mic through my Konnekt24D. There is a delay though at about 2 seconds, which is of cause annoying in many (live) cases.