Announcement of upcoming Max 5 release


    Apr 11 2008 | 4:10 am
    I'm pleased to announce a release date for Max 5. This new version will be available as a download on April 22nd, with packaged versions available shortly thereafter. Compatible versions of MSP and Jitter will be released at the same time.
    The new version will work on your system without disturbing your Max 4.6 environment, so you can evaluate it without affecting your existing Max license. Max 5 will continue to have a 30-day evaluation period.
    This is an exciting upgrade that represents an enormous effort by the entire company. Please stay tuned for more information about this upcoming release.
    For more information on the upgrade pricing, free updates and even some functionality differences, you can check the Max 5 Upgrade FAQ, available at the following link:
    [ddg]
    Darwin Grosse
    Cycling '74

    • Apr 11 2008 | 4:17 am
      Woohoo!!! Thank you, thank you!! So looking forward to it.
    • Apr 11 2008 | 11:29 am
      Great news.
      Any pricing available?
      .m
    • Apr 11 2008 | 12:54 pm
      Thank you!!
    • Apr 11 2008 | 6:01 pm
      Any upgrade pricing info?
    • Apr 11 2008 | 7:30 pm
      hi there... im about to buy MAx & Jitter at the student rate. would it be best to wait until this release do u think? is there going to be much of a price difference?
    • Apr 11 2008 | 7:35 pm
      i should have mentioned that i sent my ID and have received the go-ahead. will this still apply to max 5?
      thanks in advance
    • Apr 11 2008 | 7:36 pm
      I purchased MAX/MSP a month ago at the student rate and I was told the upgrade to MAX 5 would be free.
    • Apr 11 2008 | 7:44 pm
      There is no reason not to go ahead and purchase MaxMSP. The upgrade
      will be free if you buy now.
      AB
    • Apr 11 2008 | 7:46 pm
      brilliant thanks!!!
      the new version looks great btw. congrats
    • Apr 11 2008 | 8:18 pm
      What is the cost of upgrade for full Max/MSP/Jitter/Pluggo?
      Cheers
      Gary Lee Nelson
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
    • Apr 11 2008 | 8:42 pm
      Darwin,
      will we need to pay also for the upgrade of Jitter or is it free ?
      i.e. the fee to upgrade a Max/Msp/Jitter licence is 199 $ ?
      All the best
      --
      Alessandro Fogar
    • Apr 11 2008 | 9:23 pm
      I asked a similar question a while back, and I my impression is that
      by "new version" of MSP and Jitter, they just mean a compatible build
      of MSP and Jitter; there aren't major updates to Jitter's
      functionality, and that the Max 5 compatible builds will be free. I
      could be wrong though.
    • Apr 11 2008 | 10:29 pm
      The upgrade to a compatible version of Jitter (and MSP) is free with
      your Max 5 upgrade. There haven't been many substantial changes to
      Jitter or MSP functionality - they are just updated to work with the new
      Max infrastructure. After we release Max 5, we will begin to consider
      the next major Jitter update.
      Also, regarding system requirements:
      System Requirements Mac: OS 10.4 (or later), 1 GB RAM.
      Windows: Vista or XP; minimum 1 Ghz Intel/AMD processor, 1 GB RAM. An
      ASIO-compatible sound card recommended for optimum audio performance.
      Jitter requires QT 7.1 or later, OpenGL-compatible graphics card, and
      OpenGL 1.4 or later.
      Stay tuned for more info as it becomes available.
      Best,
      Andrew B.
    • Apr 12 2008 | 12:02 am
      On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
      > What is the cost of upgrade for full Max/MSP/Jitter/Pluggo?
      Pluggo is on a sabbatical for the Max 5 release.
      best,
      Tim
    • Apr 12 2008 | 12:14 am
      On 11/04/2008, Timothy Place wrote:
      > Pluggo is on a sabbatical for the Max 5 release.
      A paid, working sabbatical?
    • Apr 12 2008 | 12:19 am
      me too i've heard about...that it would have been a free upgrade
      not a separate 30 days evaluation whatever..
      well we'll see
      :)
      On 11 Apr 2008, at 20:36, marcos wrote:
      >
      > I purchased MAX/MSP a month ago at the student rate and I was told
      > the upgrade to MAX 5 would be free.
    • Apr 12 2008 | 12:44 am
      Sabbatical? Not sure what that means. Will Max5 run vst's made with earlier
      versions of pluggo?
      Cheers
      Gary Lee Nelson
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
    • Apr 12 2008 | 1:41 am
      >Will Max5 run vst's made with earlier
      versions of pluggo?
      No.
      Look down at "Old and New"
      -A
    • Apr 13 2008 | 3:41 am
      Will licensing information be mailed out?
      I can't wait to zoom in and out of the edit window!
      I just noticed the connection "wires" have round corners. I didn't notice that before. Rounded boxes...ok, but rounded wires is too much. :)
    • Apr 13 2008 | 9:10 pm
      There were some laughs and groans when I told my students about "hopefully soon". I couldn't have hoped for better results of what "hopefully soon" meant. Thanks for the update! I'm very excited to be able to pass this info along. :)
    • Apr 14 2008 | 10:45 am
      I cant wait.
      Purchased Max/MSP 4.6 a few weeks ago, so i am really looking forward to it.
      Especially since i get the free upgrade to 5 as well.
      Oooh, the excitement
    • Apr 15 2008 | 5:37 am
      Quote: DonK wrote on Sun, 13 April 2008 05:41
      ----------------------------------------------------
      > Rounded boxes...ok, but rounded wires is too much. :)
      ----------------------------------------------------
      Vice versa!
      Rounded wires are important. Rounded rectangles, well, stylish.
    • Apr 15 2008 | 6:07 am
      >I can't wait to zoom in and out of the edit window!
      A purely analogue method I sometimes use with great effect is to modulate my heads' spatial position to and from the screen. Works with all applications and is cross platform.
      >I just noticed the connection "wires" have round corners. I didn't >notice that before. Rounded boxes...ok, but rounded wires is too >much. :)
      what?! Rounded corners on wires and boxes? that totally messes with my straight-lined architectural aesthetic. Totally uncool. Like on/off ramps on freeways.
      j
    • Apr 15 2008 | 12:12 pm
      On 15 Apr 2008, at 06:37, Peter Ostry wrote:
      > Rounded wires are important. Rounded rectangles, well, stylish.
      If you look closely at the screenshots in the pre-release articles
      online, you'll see that there are three different kinds of rectangle
      rounding. Rounded rectangles are important as well.
      -- N.
      Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
      www.cassiel.com
      www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
      www.last.fm/music/cassiel
      www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
      www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
      www.loadbang.net
    • Apr 16 2008 | 9:54 am
      >Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Tue, 15 April 2008 14:12
      > If you look closely at the screenshots in the pre-release articles
      > online, you'll see that there are three different kinds of rectangle
      > rounding. Rounded rectangles are important as well.
      I see two but however, I miss a small rounded corner (at least in the screenshots). In case you know OmniGraffle, rounding 2 pts on a 1 pt line. Good for the eyes. But I like the new, relatively big object boxes with the color outline. Much better for messy patches.
    • Apr 16 2008 | 10:06 am
      No matter if you don't see a point in the rounded wires or even new box shapes.
      Or even if you do think that it is necessary.
      One thing is for sure, and will be made clear on the 22nd.
      That Max/MSP 5 is going to be kick ass.
      And any new look and any new feel to MAX/MSP, will be for the better, for all of us. Period.
      So at my spare time in between making patches, working at the studio and making music, is waiting for that email to pop through saying
      'NEW Max/MSP 5, released today, Download now and enjoy the future.'
    • Apr 16 2008 | 10:23 am
      are there any news about max and live agreement, guys?
      no more than the article on cycling website?
      or am i missing something?
      On 16 Apr 2008, at 11:06, Lewis G. Edwards wrote:
      >
      > No matter if you don't see a point in the rounded wires or even new
      > box shapes.
      > Or even if you do think that it is necessary.
      >
      > One thing is for sure, and will be made clear on the 22nd.
      >
      > That Max/MSP 5 is going to be kick ass.
      >
      > And any new look and any new feel to MAX/MSP, will be for the
      > better, for all of us. Period.
      >
      > So at my spare time in between making patches, working at the
      > studio and making music, is waiting for that email to pop through
      > saying
      > 'NEW Max/MSP 5, released today, Download now and enjoy the future.'
    • Apr 16 2008 | 12:33 pm
      On 2008 Apr 16, at 5:23 AM, TomGalileo wrote:
      > are there any news about max and live agreement, guys?
      > no more than the article on cycling website?
      > or am i missing something?
      The Max 5 project is not the same thing as the agreement with
      Ableton. That's something different, and you will hopefully get to
      enjoy it a little further in the future. Enjoy!
      Tim
      > On 16 Apr 2008, at 11:06, Lewis G. Edwards wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> No matter if you don't see a point in the rounded wires or even new
      >> box shapes.
      >> Or even if you do think that it is necessary.
      >>
      >> One thing is for sure, and will be made clear on the 22nd.
      >>
      >> That Max/MSP 5 is going to be kick ass.
      >>
      >> And any new look and any new feel to MAX/MSP, will be for the
      >> better, for all of us. Period.
      >>
      >> So at my spare time in between making patches, working at the
      >> studio and making music, is waiting for that email to pop through
      >> saying
      >> 'NEW Max/MSP 5, released today, Download now and enjoy the future.'
      >>
    • Apr 16 2008 | 11:40 pm
      sure looks like ableton though :-)
      (not a value judgement)
    • Apr 16 2008 | 11:48 pm
      So is there still not an official list of improvements?
      I really really really want to know about the alpha channel in interface components, yada yada. Find and replace etc. . Can I get a manual or something?
      THE SUSPENSE IS ABSOLUTELY KILLING ME. This is so much worse than any apple event on the planet.
    • Apr 17 2008 | 7:46 am
      Timothy Place skrev:
      > On 2008 Apr 16, at 5:23 AM, TomGalileo wrote:
      >> are there any news about max and live agreement, guys?
      >> no more than the article on cycling website?
      >> or am i missing something?
      >
      > The Max 5 project is not the same thing as the agreement with
      > Ableton. That's something different, and you will hopefully get to
      > enjoy it a little further in the future. Enjoy!
      > Tim
      Tim, just to let you know that your comment here is the closest thing
      the Ableton or Cycling 74 communities has gotten to a real statement
      about that in months, if not ever. :-)
      Thanks for sharing, albeit through the veil of secrecy,
      Andreas.
    • Apr 17 2008 | 11:15 pm
      Just 4 days to go - I am a first time MaxMSP user (at 35!) - just got the 4.6 licence a few weeks ago - just holding on to Max 5 then I'll learn it inside out - is 2 years enough (prob not)? anyone ?
    • Apr 18 2008 | 7:12 am
      > is 2 years enough (prob not)? anyone ?
      if you are discipline and passionate, yes! I am always amazed at
      what our second year students manage to do here...
      pa
    • Apr 18 2008 | 12:09 pm
      On 18 Apr 2008, at 00:15, David Molyneux wrote:
      > just holding on to Max 5 then I'll learn it inside out - is 2 years
      > enough (prob not)? anyone ?
      I've had Max for a little over 16 years now. Still learning.
      -- N.
      Nick Rothwell - nick@cassiel.com - www.cassiel.com
      --- open-source goodies for MaxMSP: Python, Groovy, Nixie Tubes,
      --- rotatable text bricks, databases: all at www.loadbang.net
    • Apr 18 2008 | 12:28 pm
    • Apr 18 2008 | 12:51 pm
      There seems to be an increase (yeah!) in new users with lots of
      questions that can be answered by going through readily available sources.
      A while ago I posted a summary of learning resources that I prepared for a
      residency at Willamette University. Many people have downloaded it from the
      forum and it is still there. You can see my message at
      http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=122344&rid=0&srch=basic
      +learning+resources#msg_122344
      download the attachment directly from...
      http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=getfile&id=1007&rid=0&S=55ddb071
      cf3cabebed6f971a7549ebe3
      Cheers
      Gary Lee Nelson
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
      >> Just 4 days to go - I an a first time MaxMSP user - just got the 4.6 licence
      >> a
      >> few weeks ago - just holding on to Max 5 then I'll learn it inside out - is 2
      >> years enough (prob not)? anyone ?
    • Apr 18 2008 | 2:02 pm
      I forgot about this: this is the most brilliant list
      ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      pa
      > http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?
      > t=getfile&id=1007&rid=0&S=55ddb071
      > cf3cabebed6f971a7549ebe3
    • Apr 18 2008 | 8:51 pm
      Quote: strav100 wrote on Thu, 17 April 2008 16:15
      ----------------------------------------------------
      > I'll learn it inside out - is 2 years enough (prob not)? anyone ?
      ----------------------------------------------------
      You are looking at it the wrong way. Max is a journey. (Is that cheesy or what?) It reminds me of that saying: "A moment to learn, a lifetime to master". If you enjoy experimenting and learning new things, then you will like Max because you will always be learning something new.
      It took about a year before I felt proficient. The important thing is to get a good sense of how to build and debug patches. If you keep at it you will have those skills before you know it. I doubt anyone every truly learns it inside and out. But you can get expertise in a certain area, like sound synthesis, or algorithmic composition, or video mixing... It's all up to you.
    • Apr 20 2008 | 5:57 am
      3 more sleeps!!! zzzz...
    • Apr 20 2008 | 8:00 am
      po po po popopoooo
      On 20 Apr 2008, at 06:57, Andrew Roth wrote:
      >
      > 3 more sleeps!!! zzzz...
    • Apr 20 2008 | 12:14 pm
      the suspense is killing me
    • Apr 20 2008 | 2:17 pm
      does anyone know how the License works? if i decide to reinstall Windows its it ok to use the same serial?
    • Apr 20 2008 | 7:32 pm
      I just bought 9month max and i take it at school and failed. Its kinda confusing for me but as an artist i see its potential. So i'm really looking forward to seeing how the help files are now and its gonna be any easier to learn.
      also to the dude who reckons he's used max for 16 years, hows your wrist? anyone got any tips for cramps due to too much trackpad mouse usage? my hands aren't doin so well and the thought of 16 years of max with this kind of discomfort really worries me!
      stoked about the free upgrade too... :)
    • Apr 20 2008 | 7:58 pm
      either buy a mouse and a nice mousepad with a soft wrist-rest (it really helps a lot) or get a wacom tablet.
      thats my 2 top tips :)
    • Apr 20 2008 | 7:59 pm
      Op 20-apr-2008, om 21:32 heeft mt het volgende geschreven:
      > also to the dude who reckons he's used max for 16 years, hows your
      > wrist? anyone got any tips for cramps due to too much trackpad
      > mouse usage? my hands aren't doin so well and the thought of 16
      > years of max with this kind of discomfort really worries me!
      Think first(hard), draw patch cables later. No problems with my wrist
      after 10? 15? years of heavy Max usage. Laptops for Max have only
      been a viable alternative for workstations since after the
      millenium , though. And mice/graphics tablets are more comfortable
      than trackpads. I always carry a mouse when I travel with my laptop.
    • Apr 20 2008 | 10:48 pm
      On 20 Apr 2008, at 20:32, mt wrote:
      > also to the dude who reckons he's used max for 16 years, hows your
      > wrist? anyone got any tips for cramps due to too much trackpad
      > mouse usage?
      Logitech Marble Mouse (trackball) - wonderful device.
      -- N.
      nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://
      www.cassiel.com
    • Apr 20 2008 | 10:58 pm
      Thanks for all the suggestions guys, really great, sorry for throwing the thread OT there
      carry on...
      ~
    • Apr 21 2008 | 12:05 am
      thats ok we are all busy ignoring the days before the 22nd
      what is the exact time of zero hour , and what time zone?
      btw i use a wacom too , if i touch a mouse my carpal tunnel syndrome
      says "hi, long time no see"
      >Thanks for all the suggestions guys, really great, sorry for
      >throwing the thread OT there
      >
      >carry on...
      >
      >~
    • Apr 21 2008 | 4:16 am
      Which Wacom tablets do you guys use? I am considering the Bamboo.
      - Ken
    • Apr 21 2008 | 6:45 am
      They're all good, but I'm really pleased that I managed to splash out
      for an A4 Intuos 3 a year or so back. Much finer resolution, which
      makes obsessively making sure that connections lay exactly on top of
      each other much easier. :-)
      David
      On 21 Apr 2008, at 05:16, Kenneth Stewart wrote:
      > Which Wacom tablets do you guys use? I am considering the Bamboo.
      >
      > - Ken
    • Apr 21 2008 | 7:27 am
      On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, David Stevens
      wrote:
      > They're all good, but I'm really pleased that I managed to splash out for
      > an A4 Intuos 3 a year or so back. Much finer resolution, which makes
      > obsessively making sure that connections lay exactly on top of each other
      > much easier. :-)
      >
      > David
      Speaking of which, will there be a "snap-to-max-patch-cords" option?
      Parag
    • Apr 21 2008 | 10:10 am
    • Apr 21 2008 | 12:20 pm
      Hey guys. im looking forward for the big day tomorrow. Anyone know the actual time it will be available to download and in what time zone. Im over here in little old england so we are 5 hours ahead of you. Looking forward to using presentation mode it will save me alot of time as i am a eye candy/spend hours on interface type of guy.
      laters
    • Apr 21 2008 | 12:42 pm
      Me too! Presentation mode and zoom are probably going to be worth the cost of the upgrade alone.
      1 more sleep I hope.
    • Apr 21 2008 | 1:07 pm
      people are already beginning to stand in line outside the c74 website.
      On Apr 21, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Macca wrote:
      >
      > Hey guys. im looking forward for the big day tomorrow. Anyone know
      > the actual time it will be available to download and in what time
      > zone. Im over here in little old england so we are 5 hours ahead of
      > you. Looking forward to using presentation mode it will save me alot
      > of time as i am a eye candy/spend hours on interface type of guy.
      >
      > laters
      > --
      > MaccA
    • Apr 21 2008 | 1:14 pm
      Dressed like their favorite Max Patch? :D
    • Apr 21 2008 | 1:47 pm
      But with rounded corners of course ;)
      >Dressed like their favorite Max Patch? :D
    • Apr 21 2008 | 3:33 pm
      On 21 Apr 2008, at 14:07, joshua goldberg wrote:
      > people are already beginning to stand in line outside the c74 website.
      The queue already goes round the corner ... which is, of course ...
      but you're ahead of me here.
      -- N.
      Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
      www.cassiel.com
      www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
      www.last.fm/music/cassiel
      www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
      www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
      www.loadbang.net
    • Apr 21 2008 | 4:40 pm
      Im curious, will patches be backward compatible?? Like if I go and work on one of my patches in 5 will i be able to somehow open it in 4?
      Also, is jitter going to work, or are we going to have to wait for an update to that as well?
    • Apr 21 2008 | 5:07 pm
      Max 5 will feature a completely new patcher file format that is human
      readable (similar to xml), and since we can't go back in time, you won't
      be able to open Max 5 patches in 4.6, etc. There is nothing stopping a
      clever individual from writing a 5->4 conversion utility (could probably
      use JS, scripting, etc.), but it is not something we are going to
      actively support. You will, of course, be able to open all of your Max
      patches from version 4 and update them with the new tools that are
      available in Max 5.
      Jitter has been updated in parallel with Max 5 development, so there
      will be a compatible version included in the Max 5 download. There
      aren't many flashy new features to Jitter in this update, but it works
      flawlessly with the new infrastructure.
      Stay tuned...
      AB
      Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
      > Im curious, will patches be backward compatible?? Like if I go and work on one of my patches in 5 will i be able to somehow open it in 4?
      >
      > Also, is jitter going to work, or are we going to have to wait for an update to that as well?
      > --
      > -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=-
      >
    • Apr 21 2008 | 5:31 pm
      On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
      > Im curious, will patches be backward compatible?? Like if I go and
      > work on one of my patches in 5 will i be able to somehow open it in 4?
      No.
      > Also, is jitter going to work, or are we going to have to wait for
      > an update to that as well?
      Max 5 ships with a 1.7 version of Jitter that works, but doesn't add
      any features.
      Chris Muir
      cbm@well.com
    • Apr 21 2008 | 6:04 pm
      any speed improvements with jitter in max 5?
      On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Chris Muir wrote:
      >
      > On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
      >> Im curious, will patches be backward compatible?? Like if I go and
      >> work on one of my patches in 5 will i be able to somehow open it
      >> in 4?
      >
      > No.
      >
      >
      >> Also, is jitter going to work, or are we going to have to wait for
      >> an update to that as well?
      >
      >
      > Max 5 ships with a 1.7 version of Jitter that works, but doesn't
      > add any features.
      >
      >
      > Chris Muir
      > cbm@well.com
      > http://www.xfade.com
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      bruce tovsky
      www.skeletonhome.com
      "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
      Philip K. Dick
    • Apr 21 2008 | 6:10 pm
      If Max 5 busted Jitter I'd run screaming into the woods. It doesn't have to be much better, I'm just praying it's not worse off.
    • Apr 21 2008 | 6:32 pm
      jitter 1.7 is a little faster in some situations and a little slower
      in others. it is probably worth noting that max4/j1 is not going to
      simply vanish in a puff of antiquated smoke, though.
      On Apr 21, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Roth wrote:
      >
      > If Max 5 busted Jitter I'd run screaming into the woods. It doesn't
      > have to be much better, I'm just praying it's not worse off.
    • Apr 21 2008 | 10:50 pm
      > jitter 1.7 is a little faster in some situations and a little slower
      > in others. it is probably worth noting that max4/j1 is not going to
      > simply vanish in a puff of antiquated smoke,
      >
      >>
      Am I the only one that's a little frightened by this statement?
      Keith
    • Apr 22 2008 | 10:05 am
      already awake for 6 hors on this beautifull day and still no 5 to be
      seen
      OOOOOoooohhh so much exitement is to much
      Op 21-apr-08, om 20:32 heeft joshua goldberg het volgende geschreven:
      > jitter 1.7 is a little faster in some situations and a little slower
      > in others. it is probably worth noting that max4/j1 is not going to
      > simply vanish in a puff of antiquated smoke, though.
      >
      > On Apr 21, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Roth wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> If Max 5 busted Jitter I'd run screaming into the woods. It
      >> doesn't have to be much better, I'm just praying it's not worse off.
      >
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 10:20 am
      oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...
      ...
      ... oooooooo.......
      On 22 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Pieter Coussement wrote:
      > already awake for 6 hors on this beautifull day and still no 5 to
      > be seen
      > OOOOOoooohhh so much exitement is to much
      >
      >
      > Op 21-apr-08, om 20:32 heeft joshua goldberg het volgende geschreven:
      >
      >> jitter 1.7 is a little faster in some situations and a little
      >> slower in others. it is probably worth noting that max4/j1 is not
      >> going to simply vanish in a puff of antiquated smoke, though.
      >>
      >> On Apr 21, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Roth wrote:
      >>
      >>>
      >>> If Max 5 busted Jitter I'd run screaming into the woods. It
      >>> doesn't have to be much better, I'm just praying it's not worse off.
      >>
      >>
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 10:24 am
      It's like christmas used to be :-) all that anticipation ...
      I was just thinking - we're around 8 hours ahead, so assuming C74 gets
      into work at 9 (ha ha), the earliest we're going to see Max5 is 5pm.
      If it's released at the end of their working day, it's going to be the
      middle of tomorrow morning. Waaah! Hope they've beefed up their servers!
      David
      On 22 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Pieter Coussement wrote:
      > already awake for 6 hors on this beautifull day and still no 5 to be
      > seen
      > OOOOOoooohhh so much exitement is to much
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 12:51 pm
      i should be studying for my exams! i keep hitting refresh instead!
    • Apr 22 2008 | 1:02 pm
      Is the new version going to suddenly appear on the downloads page, or will there be a big announcement (complete with links) on the home page, or...?
      BTW, it's 11pm here in Melbourne, Australia, i.e. nearly Wednesday already, and I've been waiting all day.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 1:04 pm
      it's 6.00 in the morning in sans francisco.... wake up Cycling'74 team !
      time to go to work ! :)
      http://cycling74.s3.amazonaws.com/download/maxmsp5.dmg is my homepage for
      today...
      2008/4/22, Parag Mital :
      >
      > i should be studying for my exams! i keep hitting refresh instead!
      >
      >
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 1:23 pm
      i really should be doing work to my current uni max project but im in anticipation for the big release. its going to be great. its 2,20pm in uk. hopefully its nearly here.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 1:43 pm
      Well, its April 22nd...
    • Apr 22 2008 | 2:04 pm
      The "Latest Releases" box is back on the front page, I noticed, but it still says '4.6.3'.
      :|
    • Apr 22 2008 | 2:49 pm
      damn! :
    • Apr 22 2008 | 3:10 pm
      Well, read carefully the first post, April 22nd, but the year isn't mentioned
      so... ?
    • Apr 22 2008 | 4:32 pm
      2009!
      seriously though, i'm also hyper-anxious. hopefully it'll be up by the time i get home from school.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 4:40 pm
      11:59PM
    • Apr 22 2008 | 4:42 pm
      only 930 AM their time.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 4:45 pm
      Oh my god, the wait for Max 5 is killing my brain from the inside..............
      *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
      So many clicking and refreshing.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 4:58 pm
      I guess the first sign will be that the site is down ...
      :-)
      David
    • Apr 22 2008 | 5:05 pm
      I hope not. LOL
      I will stay here at this net cafe I have ended up in because my internet connection went at home.
      *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
      I will stay here until 9:40p.m. Dubai time. Either that or i wait until i go back to my studio in the morning.
      But that is not going to happen if it is coming out around 9:30a.m. cycling 74 time.
      *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
    • Apr 22 2008 | 5:55 pm
      Patience, Grasshopper.
      -Joshua
    • Apr 22 2008 | 5:59 pm
      Daddy are we there yet?
      Cheers
      Gary Lee Nelson
      TIMARA Department
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
      On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Lewis G. Edwards wrote:
      >
      > I hope not. LOL
      >
      > I will stay here at this net cafe I have ended up in because my
      > internet connection went at home.
      >
      > *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
      >
      > I will stay here until 9:40p.m. Dubai time. Either that or i wait
      > until i go back to my studio in the morning.
      > But that is not going to happen if it is coming out around 9:30a.m.
      > cycling 74 time.
      >
      > *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
    • Apr 22 2008 | 6:01 pm
      I want it now! I want it now! I want it now!
      10:58 AM San Francisco c74 time now!!!
      click! refresh! click! refresh! (ha,ha post above!)
      perhaps I've got a touch of the OCD.......(!)
      I'll calm down and come back in a few hours :)
    • Apr 22 2008 | 6:35 pm
      Is this a sign? A moment ago I didn't get any connection at all to this site, and some minutes ago I get this strange "An Error occurred" error when I reloaded. The plot thickens :)
    • Apr 22 2008 | 6:38 pm
      2008/4/22 Gary Lee Nelson :
      > Daddy are we there yet?
      >
      If we don't behave, Daddy will turn the car around and we'll go home to Max
      4.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 6:42 pm
      On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:01 PM, David Molyneux wrote:
      >
      > I want it now! I want it now! I want it now!
      >
      > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
      >
      > 10:58 AM San Francisco c74 time now!!!
      >
      > click! refresh! click! refresh! (ha,ha post above!)
      >
      > perhaps I've got a touch of the OCD.......(!)
      >
      > I'll calm down down and come back in a few hours :)
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:01 pm
      It was probably overloaded with people refreshing the page wondering where max5 is.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:02 pm
      Na. I'm pinging cycling74 every 10 seconds, nothing unusual yet.
      Op 22-apr-2008, om 20:35 heeft Fred het volgende geschreven:
      >
      > Is this a sign? A moment ago I didn't get any connection at all to
      > this site, and some minutes ago I get this strange "An Error
      > occurred" error when I reloaded. The plot thickens :)
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:11 pm
      Quote: joshua goldberg wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 11:42
      ----------------------------------------------------
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
      >
      *lol* This is mild compared to the typical Max users response when they finally get their hands on 5.
      We're not an obsessive bunch, not at all. (refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, ...)
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:19 pm
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:20 pm
      Hmm must be at least noon there maybe 1 by now.
      Bah, josh you have us all hanging! I dont think ive ever been in such anticipation of a software release in my life. Or a release of anything for that matter...
      need to code an auto refresher, clicking finger is getting tired.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:23 pm
      Quote: Axiom-Crux wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 21:20
      ----------------------------------------------------
      > Hmm must be at least noon there maybe 1 by now.
      >
      > Bah, josh you have us all hanging! I dont think ive ever been in such anticipation of a software release in my life. Or a release of anything for that matter...
      >
      > need to code an auto refresher, clicking finger is getting tired.
      ----------------------------------------------------
      If you are running Firefox:
      ;)
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:26 pm
      tell the barmaid that the next drink is for me !
      keep on moving
      2008/4/22 Lewis G. Edwards :
      >
      > I hope not. LOL
      >
      > I will stay here at this net cafe I have ended up in because my internet
      > connection went at home.
      >
      > *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
      >
      > I will stay here until 9:40p.m. Dubai time. Either that or i wait until i
      > go back to my studio in the morning.
      > But that is not going to happen if it is coming out around 9:30a.m. cycling
      > 74 time.
      >
      > *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh* *Click, refresh*
      >
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:47 pm
      I am running firefox, thank you, perfect YES!
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:55 pm
      2008/4/22 Nicholas C. Raftis III :
      >
      > Bah, josh you have us all hanging!
      I have it on good information that JKC himself has the update all loaded up
      and ready to post and is taking his time enjoying a leisurely late lunch. He
      is considering going on a walk, too. That's just the kind of person he is.
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:57 pm
      On 2008 Apr 22, at 2:20 PM, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
      >
      > Hmm must be at least noon there maybe 1 by now.
      Oh yeah. Noon. Wow. 1:00. Dang. I better stop and go get some
      lunch. I'm ravished!
      Tim
    • Apr 22 2008 | 7:59 pm
      nintendo....no...cycling 64 no! 74.
      I open the wrapping paper! - click on the download link!!!
      maaaamaaaaamamaamamamamamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaXecksecksceksckecks!! fififififififiiiiivvvvvvvvvvvvvaaaaa!
      Great video!
    • Apr 22 2008 | 8:15 pm
      TEASE!!
      everytime you hit refresh a fairy dies.