Can we have Ctrl-alt-click back?


    May 30 2008 | 12:14 pm
    I really miss the old ctrl-alt-click to get a list of
    messages understood by an object - any chance we could
    have it back ? Or perhaps there's some alternative
    that I'm missing...?
    I just opened an old patch, for example, to be told
    that table no longer understands 'tabrange' (why not?)
    - it would have been nice to be able to just call up a
    list of what it does understand, as you used to be
    able to do, in order to know how to correct this,
    cheers
    Roger

    • May 30 2008 | 12:25 pm
      Click the left inlet of the object....
      Dan
      At 1:14 PM +0100 5/30/08, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:
      >I really miss the old ctrl-alt-click to get a list of
      >messages understood by an object - any chance we could
      >have it back ? Or perhaps there's some alternative
      >that I'm missing...?
      > I just opened an old patch, for example, to be told
      >that table no longer understands 'tabrange' (why not?)
      >- it would have been nice to be able to just call up a
      >list of what it does understand, as you used to be
      >able to do, in order to know how to correct this,
      >cheers
      >Roger
      --
      Dan Nigrin
      Defective Records
      202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major
      Malfunction
      http://www.defectiverecords.com
    • May 30 2008 | 12:52 pm
      Doh!
      Thanks
      Roger
      --- Dan Nigrin wrote:
      > Click the left inlet of the object....
      >
      > Dan
      >
      > At 1:14 PM +0100 5/30/08, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:
      > >I really miss the old ctrl-alt-click to get a list
      > of
      > >messages understood by an object - any chance we
      > could
      > >have it back ? Or perhaps there's some alternative
      > >that I'm missing...?
      > > I just opened an old patch, for example, to be
      > told
      > >that table no longer understands 'tabrange' (why
      > not?)
      > >- it would have been nice to be able to just call
      > up a
      > >list of what it does understand, as you used to be
      > >able to do, in order to know how to correct this,
      > >cheers
      > >Roger
      >
      >
      > --
      > Dan Nigrin
      > Defective Records
      > 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert /
      > Jack OS X / Major
      > Malfunction
      > http://www.defectiverecords.com
      > http://www.jackosx.com
      >
      >
    • May 30 2008 | 1:46 pm
      And now you can click those commands to get message boxes instantly.
      It's great.
      a.
      Dan Nigrin skrev:
      > Click the left inlet of the object....
      >
      > Dan
      >
      > At 1:14 PM +0100 5/30/08, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:
      >> I really miss the old ctrl-alt-click to get a list of
      >> messages understood by an object - any chance we could
      >> have it back ? Or perhaps there's some alternative
      >> that I'm missing...?
      >> I just opened an old patch, for example, to be told
      >> that table no longer understands 'tabrange' (why not?)
      >> - it would have been nice to be able to just call up a
      >> list of what it does understand, as you used to be
      >> able to do, in order to know how to correct this,
      >> cheers
      >> Roger
      >
      >
    • May 30 2008 | 3:08 pm
      On 30 mai 08, at 14:14, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:
      > I just opened an old patch, for example, to be told
      > that table no longer understands 'tabrange' (why not?)
      Using the range attribute is the way to go now. That said, for
      compatibility reason, I just reimplemented the tabrange message for
      the next incremental. Thanks for noticing it.
      ej
    • May 30 2008 | 5:07 pm
      Quote: Wetterberg wrote on Fri, 30 May 2008 06:46
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      > And now you can click those commands to get message boxes instantly.
      > It's great.
      >
      And you can alt+click the left inlet to get a longer list including all the common box attributes like color and presentation_position.
      It is great :)