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i m digging the possibility of customizing the menu bar beyond what's offered by menubar object, for a standalon app.

I m creating in the maxinterface my menubar by changing parameters of the run time elements, but i cant manage to customize nor delete specifically the "applmenu" which still appears even if i try to override it with "customapplmenu"

I would like to know if its possible to change/modify the "applmenu" or not, and if not what's the point of having the "customapplmenu" whose function would actually to use it instead of the default "applmenu"?

Hi,
i m digging the possibility of customizing the menu bar beyond what's offered by menubar object, for a standalon app.

I m creating in the maxinterface my menubar by changing parameters of the run time elements, but i cant manage to customize nor delete specifically the "applmenu" which still appears even if i try to override it with "customapplmenu" 

Does someone have a clule about it?
thx!



Hi,
i m digging the possibility of customizing the menu bar beyond what's offered by menubar object, for a standalon app.

I m creating in t

cant-get-ride-of-applmenu

you need to edit maxinterface.json file.
Only that can remove default menu items.


my problem is that the menubar object is overriding anything you would put in the maxinterface.json. Its one strategy or the other. So you might want to work with menubar, because it seems to be more handy. But this one doesnt actually permit to have custom menu only. You can only add custom items to the mains 'appl, edit, file; help' which is super annoying.

While on the other hand, working with the json makes everything more complicated because you have no idea how you would need to configure action of the menu items - nothing is documented.

Let's say you want to create from the json a simple 'help' then a command that says 'visit website' in the menu

yes i know!
my problem is that the menubar object is overriding anything you would put in the maxinterface.json. Its one strategy or the other. So you might want to work with menubar, because it seems to be more handy. But this one doesnt actually permit to have custom menu only. You can only add custom items to the mains 'appl, edit, file; help' which is super annoying. 

While on the other hand, working with the json makes everything more complicated because you have no idea how you would need to configure action of the menu items - nothing is documented. 

Let's say you want to create from the json a simple 'help' then a command that says 'visit website' in the menu
How you would do that? i have no clue.

Menubar object can add anything , it just can't remove default

One has to get rid of them by modifying maxinterface.json file.

Menubar object can add anything , it just can't remove default
File, Edit, Windows, Help etc items.
One has to get rid of them by modifying maxinterface.json file.


well that's what i thought too. So please explain me because, i have made a simple exemple with the menubar helpfile.app, then i did modify the maxinterface.json, deleting everything in the "menus_runtime_mac" and it doesnt affect the menubar of the app, as you can see on the picture bellow

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So what do i do wrong? In theory, there shouldnt be any default menu like window and help.

Editing only that portion of maxinterface.json is not enough.

You need to remove all traces of menu objects.

I have no time to provide full tutorial now.

Here is edited file with ALL default menu items removed.

Place it in compiled standalone, not in Max

maxinterface.json.zip

I have no time to provide full tutorial now.
Here is edited file with ALL default menu items removed.
Place it in compiled standalone, not in Max

here custom script example 

#X about My-App;
#X closeitem;
#X file 1 -;
#X edit 1 -;
#X menutitle 5 File;
#X item 5 1 Item-1;
#X item 5 2 Item-2;
#X item 5 3 Item-3;
#X end;

thx a lot for the explanations. That's what i was looking for. I had no idea that i needed to delete everything. I read other topics mentioning that only the custom had to be modified.

Everything looks fine besides the "applmenu" which doesnt seem to accept customization

thx a lot for the explanations. That's what i was looking for. I had no idea that i needed to delete everything. I read other topics mentioning that only the custom had to be modified.

Everything looks fine besides the "applmenu" which doesnt seem to accept customization

Apple Menu Item has nothing to do with any app, it is system item.

Only way to hide it when running max is to hide menubar all together.

Apple Menu Item has nothing to do with any app, it is system item.
Only way to hide it when running max is to hide menubar all together.


cant get ride of applmenu