"clear" [kslider]


    Feb 21 2006 | 8:30 pm
    "clear" [kslider] does not work for me. what i doing?
    -small talk 110

    • Feb 21 2006 | 9:04 pm
      Do you have it set to polyphonic mode? I don't think the clear message works for monophonic mode. - David
      On Feb 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Roman Thilenius wrote:
      > "clear" [kslider] does not work for me. what i doing?
    • Feb 21 2006 | 9:14 pm
      I was wondering if anyone out there is using this with max.
      Anthony
    • Feb 21 2006 | 10:18 pm
      well they have and use them at Berklee, where Dr B teaches...
      Its quite an instrument. Very few that even come close to the functionality of that device. I've never used that software of his, but I personally found the pc interface software and all the C++ that was involved, very annoying.
      But that Baton, DAMN. Its badass.
      Computo
    • Feb 21 2006 | 10:21 pm
      Hi there,
      I am one of the authors of that paper... I surely was using this with Max until my Laptop got stolen.
      It worked very well... however now both the Radio Baton hardware and the Max/MSP software have improved so much that it would probably be worth it to reprogram the whole thing, making it faster and with more features.
      Sometime I will get to do it.
      Best.
      - Luigi
      Luigi Castelli
      superbigio@yahoo.com
    • Feb 21 2006 | 10:45 pm
      i am currently working on a project with max mathews involving his radio baton, his conductor program and the stockholm rule sets from director musices. anything in particular you were curious about?
      /*j
    • Feb 22 2006 | 12:23 am
      I was more interested in how one goes about acquiring one and if there is a max external that comes with it.
      Anthony
    • Feb 22 2006 | 12:38 am
      I know it gives you 3 axis positional information for each baton. Does it also give you information on velocity of where you strike the pad?
      Anthony
    • Feb 22 2006 | 9:24 am
      hi anthony,
      the radio baton does pure radio-position tracking, there's no touch-sensibility built into the board. to get the velocity, you'll have to calculate the deltas of height before impact.
      the outputs are purely midi (for now), so you use all the usual suspects (objects) in core-Max.
      it looks like a 3D controller, but is more like a 2 1/2 dimensional one. the z-dimension (height) becomes more imprecise the higher you go, therefore you only get a cone of precision above the board that goes from precise to unusable in about 18 inches.
      max mathews and tom oberheim are working on a new model which intergrates wireless batons (and hopefully a different protocol for transmission).
      i love the radio baton for it's directness, speed and intuitive handling, it's a simple and very effective controller (and it's fast, fast enough for percussion playing).
      for purchasing a radio baton contact max mathews or tom oberheim directly.
      cheers
      /*j
      > I know it gives you 3 axis positional information for > each baton. Does it also give you information > on velocity of where you strike the pad?
      >> I was more interested in how one goes about acquiring one >> and if there is a max external that comes with it.
    • Feb 22 2006 | 3:43 pm
      > the outputs are purely midi (for now),
      As part of my school work I have been improving the transmission mechanism of the radio baton (we call it the radio drum, or the Boie drum). At this point the apparatus is working purely in the MSP domain - the sticks are driven with carrier frequencies generated by the computer, and the output of the antenna is fed into a sound card so that the demodulation and positional math can be done with signal objects. In other words, there is no need for the hardware black box that comes with the system! Also in the good news department, the resolution is much better than MIDI (> 85dB in each dimension, or about 15 effective bits) and the latency can be as small as your sound card can handle - in my case this is less than 5ms.
      Lots of ideas for improvement too. I'm currently working on better filtering algorithms to improve the resolution, and different antenna geometries that will do a better job of tracking in 3D space.
      Ben
    • Feb 22 2006 | 4:27 pm
      Sounds fantastic! When will that be available to others? I would be very interested.
      Lawrence
      Lawrence Casserley - lawrence@lcasserley.co.uk Lawrence Electronic Operations - www.lcasserley.co.uk Colourscape Music Festivals - www.colourscape.org.uk
    • Feb 22 2006 | 4:41 pm
      > Do you have it set to polyphonic mode? I don't think the clear message > works for monophonic mode. - David
      oh ok .. well the ref didn t say this.
      so i will be sending "set 199" to clear its GUI, np.
    • Feb 22 2006 | 5:04 pm
      Yeah, I couldn't find any definitive reference to this either. I just guessed at it since the help file only shows the "clear" message as part of the polyphonic mode subpatch, not as part of the main patch.
    • Feb 22 2006 | 8:45 pm