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i just updatet to Max7 and now the Dial Needle is gone. I need a dail with 360 degrees with needle. I cant use Live.Dial because there you cant set the Degees to 360.

With Dail an Drawing Style Indicator you barely see the Postition. Has anyone a JSPainterFile so i can get the "old" Dail Style with Needle back ?

i just updatet to Max7 and now the Dial Needle is gone. I need a dail with 360 degrees with needle. I cant use Live.Dial because there you cant set the Degees to 360.
With Dail an Drawing Style Indicator you barely see the Postition. Has anyone a JSPainterFile so i can get the "old" Dail Style with Needle back ?


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i'm pretty dismayed that the original style is not readily available as an option - especially when so many of the UIs i've developed are built on that simple and clear style ... following this thread for a simple workaround - I was just trying to make my toddler a dual Analog / Digital clock because he's obsessed with numbers, back to 6 then : ( - hope i've missed something, amazed it's taken me this long to spot this - there must have been a fuss on release (new style is great, it just needs a conventional dial metaphor option) - time to examine this js painter file option i guess

edit: no phase for the dial start position... wut ? .. surely not !

it's been a pain for me too with the "dial doesn't understand frgb" message in all my patches

but I find that dial's new "pie slice" function is pretty good, did you try it?

it's been a pain for me too with the "dial doesn't understand frgb" message in all my patches
but I find that dial's new "pie slice" function is pretty good, did you try it?


no complaints with the ideas behind the options in the new look dials - the slither slice is rather unsightly, the standard dial is good too for putting numbers in the middle - but it's a pity that extensive UI work in Max6 is wasted and largely unrepeatable now - it's not like a regular dial has ever gone out of fashion, easily the most legible - yeah, the thin slice gets close-ish and the other large pie dial is useful - but a waste IMHO without a means to adjust the start point or phase of the dial - a piece of cake to add in for them all - working on 6 and 7 isn't the ideal scenario - a first world issue perhaps, but an easy one to remedy - hoped i'd missed something, but keen to explore the js route

I hate the new look. I design interfaces for non-MAX users to operate, and sadly, the new modern-look bear no resemblance to a 'real-world' dial or slider! They are confusing for non-MAX users to say the least! I hope that cycling74 at LEAST allows a selection of styles in the future! Stop trying to waste time with non-functional/cosmetic changes that are non-intuitive!

I hate the new look.  I design interfaces for non-MAX users to operate, and sadly, the new modern-look bear no resemblance to a 'real-world' dial or slider!  They are confusing for non-MAX users to say the least!  I hope that cycling74 at LEAST allows a selection of styles in the future! Stop trying to waste time with non-functional/cosmetic changes that are non-intuitive!


Don't be so harsh! you'll get used to. IMO the pie slice is pretty awesome.

It's not a matter of pure aesthetic preference: it is a matter of clarity to someone using for a preprogrammed purpose. I also program it for use in psychological acoustic studies, and for test subjects who has never seen it before, and it has become unusable. The knob looks NOTHING like a real-world knob, and non-MAX users have indicated they couldn't operate it (some are children, so please be nice to them.) MAX/MSP used to be so intuitive and simple in the user interface that it made a great research tool. Now, we are actually reverting back to earlier version to develop tools. :( Not progress in my book. Should have allowed options...

It's not a matter of pure aesthetic preference: it is a matter of clarity to someone using for a preprogrammed purpose.  I also program it for use in psychological acoustic studies, and for test subjects who has never seen it before, and it has become unusable.  The knob looks NOTHING like a real-world knob, and non-MAX users have indicated they couldn't operate it (some are children, so please be nice to them.)  MAX/MSP used to be so intuitive and simple in the user interface that it made a great research tool.  Now, we are actually reverting back to earlier version to develop tools. :( Not progress in my book.  Should have allowed options...


I cant use Live.Dial because there you cant set the Degees to 360. 

perhaps with max8 we get a new dail design. 

 I cant use Live.Dial because there you cant set the Degees to 360. 
I used the dail to show a direction.
perhaps with max8 we get a new dail design. 


Ok. Maybe in live 8 then;-) Must say I prefer the old style as well. To be honest I think the whole design of Max6 was better but I guess the 7 design is meant to match Ableton Live?

Ok. Maybe in live 8 then;-)  Must say I prefer the old style as well. To be honest I think the whole design of Max6 was better but I guess the 7 design is meant to match Ableton Live?

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