hello all, it's way past time for me to learn how to use the dict system efficiently. why am i having such a hard time wrapping my head around it? i am currently trying to recall states for a patch that has two hundred parameters. dict is doing the trick very nicely; i guess i assumed the strength of dict was that you could have a dictionary full of dictionaries that have different values for the same keys. right now i have an amazing patch that can store one preset. what am i missing? thanks, Taylor