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I'm hoping someone might recognize what might cause this kind of a crash --- I am seeing it intermittently with the latest Max 7.25 as well as the older Max 5 version

I'm hoping that there might be a clue based on the names of the top few calls in the stack trace.

0 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000bc5c4 class_attr_method + 60

1 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000bc6b3 object_attr_method + 105

2 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0001c286 typedmess_lookup + 178

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000641f9 outlet_anything + 603

4 com.cycling74.MaxAPI     0x02d93441 outlet_anything + 60

5 com.cycling74.coll     0x0b4d1e86 celem_out + 95

6 com.cycling74.coll     0x0b4d3d5e coll_int + 166

7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063

8 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000652a9 outlet_int + 755

9 com.cycling74.MaxAPI     0x02d93330 outlet_int + 38

10 com.cycling74.counter     0x0b8dafe2 counter_output + 241

11 com.cycling74.counter     0x0b8dbbe4 counter_bang + 77

12 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000658c3 outlet_bang + 1035

13 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0001c83d typedmess_fun + 1283

14 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0001cb79 typedmess + 83

15 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0001d1f9 aeval + 899

16 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000083e0 atombuf_eval + 152

17 com.cycling74.MaxAPI     0x02d9fd91 atombuf_eval + 60

18 com.cycling74.message     0x08abc0ab jmessage_atombuf_eval + 429

19 com.cycling74.message     0x08abc37b jmessage_int + 130

20 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063

21 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00047c21 route_int(route*, long) + 169

22 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063

23 com.cycling74.MaxAPI     0x02d93330 outlet_int + 38

24 com.cycling74.pv     0x0b64ca32 pv_bang + 168

25 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00065799 outlet_bang + 737

Thread 2 Crashed:
0   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000bc5c4 class_attr_method + 60
1   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000bc6b3 object_attr_method + 105
2   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0001c286 typedmess_lookup + 178
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000641f9 outlet_anything + 603
4   com.cycling74.MaxAPI          	0x02d93441 outlet_anything + 60
5   com.cycling74.coll            	0x0b4d1e86 celem_out + 95
6   com.cycling74.coll            	0x0b4d3d5e coll_int + 166
7   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063
8   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000652a9 outlet_int + 755
9   com.cycling74.MaxAPI          	0x02d93330 outlet_int + 38
10  com.cycling74.counter         	0x0b8dafe2 counter_output + 241
11  com.cycling74.counter         	0x0b8dbbe4 counter_bang + 77
12  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000658c3 outlet_bang + 1035
13  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0001c83d typedmess_fun + 1283
14  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0001cb79 typedmess + 83
15  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0001d1f9 aeval + 899
16  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000083e0 atombuf_eval + 152
17  com.cycling74.MaxAPI          	0x02d9fd91 atombuf_eval + 60
18  com.cycling74.message         	0x08abc0ab jmessage_atombuf_eval + 429
19  com.cycling74.message         	0x08abc37b jmessage_int + 130
20  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063
21  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00047c21 route_int(route*, long) + 169
22  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000653dd outlet_int + 1063
23  com.cycling74.MaxAPI          	0x02d93330 outlet_int + 38
24  com.cycling74.pv              	0x0b64ca32 pv_bang + 168
25  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00065799 outlet_bang + 737


Does anyone recognize what might be causing this crash?