doppler~ mystery


    Jun 25 2006 | 8:25 pm
    In the list of objects that pops up when you click the object tool in a patcher, I found an object called doppler~. If I try to instantiate it, I am informed that it doesn't exist.
    Sure enough, it doesn't. It isn't listed in the text files in While adding cross~ to my MaxMSP object lists by editing /Library/Application Support/Cycling '74/init/, as a search with BBEdit revealed. It's not anywhere on my hard drive, let alone in a MaxMPS directory, as a "locate doppler" command in the Terminal attests. I do of course get the doppler examples with that search.
    I found this peculiarity while adding cross~ Cycling '74/init/audio-objectlist.txt. Somehow this very useful MSP filter was not in the list.
    A search of the forums for doppler~ turned up empty.
    Not that it seems of any great importance--but does anyone else see this non-existent doppler~ in their object list? Does anyone know why it is showing up?
    -- Paul
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    • Jun 26 2006 | 8:52 am
      Paul Hertz wrote: > Not that it seems of any great importance--but does anyone else see > this non-existent doppler~ in their object list? Does anyone know why > it is showing up?
      It does not show up here, and the only reason why it would shows up, is an entrance into any of the text files in the init folder. No matter in which, they just contain messages to the Max application and will be executed on start up. I am sure you will find something there.
      Stefan
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    • Jun 27 2006 | 5:09 am
      Exactly what I thought, so I did a multi-file search with BBEdit. Several times for different strings, skeptic that i was--and turned up no result. Tried it again just now, same result.
      I've been trying to run a shell command sudo find . -exec grep -e "doppler" -f {}; but get an error find: -exec: no terminating ";"
      Not sure what I'm doing wrong, since there is a ";" terminating the command...
      Is there any other possible way for items to be loaded into the object list besides from the init directory?
      -- Paul
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    • Jun 27 2006 | 8:21 am
      On 27-Jun-2006, at 7:09, Paul Hertz wrote:
      > Is there any other possible way for items to be loaded into the object > list besides from the init directory?
      An object located in max-startup? It would load itself and possibly install itself into the Object List.
      This is probably unlikely in your case.
      -- P.
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    • Jun 27 2006 | 8:54 am
      On 27 Jun 2006, at 06:09, Paul Hertz wrote:
      > I've been trying to run a shell command > sudo find . -exec grep -e "doppler" -f {}; > but get an error > find: -exec: no terminating ";"
      You have to escape the semicolon:
      find . -exec grep doppler {} ;
      However, you're probably going to have other problems with any search hits, either because the patcher files are binary, or because they're text with CR line terminators (and the Unix world expects LF), so the printout is going to be messy. (There are options to grep to return a status code only, so you could put together a command which only shows the filenames.)
      Oh: your "-f {}" looks odd - you want to search the file, not lift the regular expressions from it.
      -- N.
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    • Jun 27 2006 | 10:33 am
      On 27 juin 06, at 07:09, Paul Hertz wrote:
      > Exactly what I thought, so I did a multi-file search with BBEdit. > Several times for different strings, skeptic that i was--and turned up > no result. Tried it again just now, same result. > > I've been trying to run a shell command > sudo find . -exec grep -e "doppler" -f {}; > but get an error > find: -exec: no terminating ";" > > Not sure what I'm doing wrong, since there is a ";" terminating the > command...
      Try this:
      find . -exec grep -e "doppler" -f {} ;
      HTH, ej
    • Jun 27 2006 | 11:32 am
      aloa bonjour,
      I just figured out a Universal Binary version of max an jitter was released. it is steal a beta but I suppose it can already give an idea of the performances those new intel based macs can reach. I have a project going on in which several macminis are trigerd to play videos and sound files where an additional computer is the remote. I did that once with 1.42Gh G4 based minis and it worked fine. I d like to know if I ll have at least the same results with 1.5 intel coresolo minis. moreover, I heard there were weired sound drops and problems with the OSC objects when running the previous version which used Rosetta; do those belong to the past now?
      any information is welcome.
      bedankt & ciao a tutti.
      //yac
    • Jun 27 2006 | 2:05 pm
      Thanks for the help. Yeah, searching binaries would be a little crazy, but I was getting bugged by the whole thing...
      -- Paul
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    • Jun 27 2006 | 6:26 pm
      Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Tue, 27 June 2006 02:21 ---------------------------------------------------- > On 27-Jun-2006, at 7:09, Paul Hertz wrote: > > > Is there any other possible way for items to be loaded into the object > > list besides from the init directory? > > An object located in max-startup? It would load itself and possibly > install itself into the Object List. > > This is probably unlikely in your case. >
      but something _must have been writing the entry into his object list. a third party patch or collective maybe?
      i remember that friggin pink third-party bullshit i once opened in my max app and after that my color settings in the runtime were gone (all pink and violet!)