feedback network


    Jun 03 2006 | 7:14 pm
    apologies if this has come up before, i did a search, but i couldnt see anything...
    anyway. i have the free pluggo vst's, and i want to see inside them. particularly the feedback network plugin. does anyone know if the code is accessible? or how the plugin works?
    thanks

    • Jun 03 2006 | 10:14 pm
      I'm sorry, but the source for the plug-in is not currently available.
    • Jun 04 2006 | 12:27 am
    • Jun 04 2006 | 9:13 am
      huh? that didn't take me anywhere. but then, looking who it's from, it's probably a really clever sarcastic reply that i would never understand anyway, but that actually doesn't have any relevance to anything i said in the first place
      got a lot of time on your hands roman? haha
    • Jun 04 2006 | 2:49 pm
      yea that was clear that this happens - sorry there is a space between "D" and "SP" from posting it into the forum textfield which you have to remove.
    • Jun 04 2006 | 6:28 pm
      In the absence of the source code, perhaps you might benefit from asking a more specific question or two - for example, all of the controls for the Feedback Network plug-in are [at least, in my opinion] fairly clearly labeled, and the labels seem to be funtional descriptions of a section of the patch.
      Have you tried reverse engineering the patch yourself? [That's always a great path toward finding some thing you didn't expect to find interesting or do, I find] If you haven't been unsuccessful, what bits of your imagined reverse-engineered patch are you having trouble with? As is usually the case, more specific questions will get you better answers.
    • Jun 06 2006 | 8:30 am
      But its a good project to try to redo it... In the end you'll have a different plugin especially suited to your own needs. Pluggos are an endless source of inspiration...
      Stefan
      -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
    • Jun 06 2006 | 9:53 am
      cheers guys
      i'll definately give it a go
    • Jun 07 2006 | 3:31 pm
      Have a look at Leafcutter John's Framework project at https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/Leafcutter ; there's a feedback module in there that I made, which might get you started. In this case, it's just a way to feedback a bunch of bpatcher modules into each other, using a matrix, but it's a handy starting point. It was the basis of a modular Pluggo thing that I started building, called Ms.Modular & Mr.Modulator, which you can find at http://www.wildfrontear.co.uk/plugs.html . I also made a Pluggo called Rezdelay which you'll find at the same place. It's basically a bunch of tapin/tapout's with resonant filters in the feedback path, which is always a good place to start for feedback noises; if it's the kind of thing you're looking for, I'll see if i can dig out the source, cheers Roger
    • Jun 07 2006 | 7:59 pm
      thanks a lot. i'll take a look and let you know
      thanks again
    • Jun 07 2006 | 9:45 pm
      roger -
      the rezdelay is a .pi file. what exactly is this?!
      thanks
    • Jun 07 2006 | 9:51 pm
      plug-in
    • Jun 07 2006 | 9:56 pm
      oops :) how do i use it then?
    • Jun 07 2006 | 10:07 pm
      If you're running Pluggo, then you just drop them into the same folder as your other plug-ins, same as if you'd created one yourself.
    • Jun 07 2006 | 10:12 pm
      oh i see. sorry, not very familar with the whole pluggo thing. i don't have pluggo - does this mean i can't use the plugin? sorry, i 've been trying to read up a little more about it but i can't find much.
    • Jun 08 2006 | 7:58 am
      You at least need the Pluggo Runtime, which is a free download from https://cycling74.com/downloads/pluggo , but you might as well grab a few free plugs whilst you're at it, by downloading Pluggo Junior, cheers Roger
      PS. in my Mac-centric arrogance, I forgot to ask what platform you're on - mine are Mac built, so they wont run on Windows :-(
      --- Osborne Frit wrote:
      > > oh i see. sorry, not very familar with the whole > pluggo thing. i don't have pluggo - does this mean i > can't use the plugin? sorry, i 've been trying to > read up a little more about it but i can't find > much. >
    • Jun 08 2006 | 9:25 am
      ah ok. it's mac all the way, don't worry about it :)
    • Jun 09 2006 | 2:17 pm
      noone worries about it anymore dont worry