Geometric/Physcial modelling.


    Apr 22 2008 | 8:28 pm
    Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)
    a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.
    any help greatly appreciated.
    thanks

    • Apr 23 2008 | 3:56 pm
      maybe im being crazy?
    • Apr 23 2008 | 4:08 pm
      Quote: rory.stjohn@gmail.com wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 17:56
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      > maybe im being crazy?
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      no, you're not. i'm also pretty sure it would involve some jitter matrices ;)
      but seriously. i'm sorry, i personally can't help you with this, but i'm sure there are others around that can.
      maybe the jitter forum is a better place to ask?
      regards,
      kjg
    • Apr 23 2008 | 4:50 pm
      a couple options for physical modeling:
      the pmpd objects.
      the jit.lua ode mod
    • Apr 23 2008 | 6:30 pm
      Robert Ramirez schrieb:
      > a couple options for physical modeling:
      > the pmpd objects.
      > the jit.lua ode mod
      and Percolate...
      Stefan
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    • Apr 23 2008 | 7:15 pm
      hi,
      from your description I am not exactly sure what you are trying to
      achieve. first I thought you were talking about sound, but now I think
      you meant interaction of 3d objects?
      as rob already mentioned ode is a good place to start with rigid object
      interaction, python offers an ode package. mass spring damper
      functionality is included in pmpd and msd externals.
      does this help you?
      marius.
      chrome-metronome wrote:
      > Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)
      >
      > a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.
      >
      > any help greatly appreciated.
      > thanks
      >
    • Apr 23 2008 | 8:11 pm
      msd works well too
      ~s
      On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM, chrome-metronome
      wrote:
      >
      > Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)
      >
      > a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.
      >
      > any help greatly appreciated.
      > thanks
    • Apr 24 2008 | 12:36 am
      yes great this is the kinda stuff im after. sorry for the bad terminology.
      thanks alot
    • Apr 24 2008 | 1:25 am
      ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first tho :
    • Apr 24 2008 | 4:55 pm
      > ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni
      > paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first
      > tho :
      I've made a set of abstraction and a kind of tutorial for PMPD :
      mc.PMPD : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm
      please have a look at it !
      MathieU
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    • Apr 24 2008 | 5:59 pm
      Wow.
      Thank you this is really incredible.
      Parag.
      I've made a set of abstraction and a kind of tutorial for PMPD :
      > mc.PMPD : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm
      > please have a look at it !
      >
      > MathieU
      >
      > ________________
      > Mathieu Chamagne
      > mathieu.chamagne@free.fr
      >
      > http://mathieuchamagne.com
      > http://www.maxobjects.com
      >
      >
      >
      >
    • Apr 25 2008 | 12:48 pm
      brilliant thanks alot for the help!!
    • Apr 30 2008 | 4:39 pm
      hello again Mathieu..
      in my Externals, i have pmpd.mass2d
      whereas your objects are
      mc.pmpd.mass2d
      i think this might have effected the way i view you patches as there are no outlets to your objects. is this the case? thanks
      r
    • May 02 2008 | 7:03 am
    • May 07 2008 | 2:38 pm
      hmm.. i have the objects downloaded and in my external folder. i can call up the pdmp objects. just when i go to open your patches/tuts/abstractions i get errors ::::
      • error: mc.pmpd.link.param: No such object
      • error: mc.pmpd.link: No such object
      • error: mc.pmpd.mass: No such object
      so if i try to rename you object from "mc.pmpd.mass cloc @gr mass @id 1 @Xmin 0. @Xmax 100." to "pdmp.mass @gr. .....",, i get bad argument.
      also, i notice that some of your abstractions use the RIght inlet on pdmp objects? i do not have a right inlet on most of mine, only the 'link' one.
      maybe i downloaded old ones? or am i missing something?
      i would greatly appreaciate some more examples on this.
      thanks for your help so far
      r
    • May 07 2008 | 4:09 pm
      just in case you read it thru the web forum, here are the URLs :
      PMPD library :
      PMPD mac UB : PMPD_UB http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD_UB.zip
      PMPD for windows : pmpd-for-max-xp.zip http://drpichon.free.fr/pmpd/download/pmpd-for-max-xp.zip
      mc.pmpd :
      lattest version is : mc.PMPD_1.05 http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/mc.PMPD_1.05.zip
      Mathieu
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    • May 07 2008 | 4:21 pm
      ah yes.. i have them now!! :) i didnt realise that the mc. were infact a whole patch. thanks alot! now to make some sense of it all! :)
      thanks again & i hope you enjoying some nice weather