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In ableton Max for Live Im trying to slow down grooveduck with ableton automation curve from a very high frequency to a very low frequency so it locks smoothly in phase at a desired time location.

As in the screenshot below, first I am locking the phase of the high frequency in ableton with midi 61 (note c#3), and then it slows down to the desired location where I have midi 62 (note d3) that reports phase that comes out of the right inlet of grooveduck.

I planned to play the whole thing in a loop a few times and check the phase at the time location so I can adjust the ableton automation curve a bit to set the phase at location to 0, but as the loop goes on I get very different results of phase every time.

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Hi, 
In ableton Max for Live Im trying to slow down grooveduck with ableton automation curve from a very high frequency to a very low frequency so it locks smoothly in phase at a desired time location. 

As in the screenshot below, first I am locking the phase of the high frequency in ableton with midi 61 (note c#3), and then it slows down to the desired location where I have midi 62 (note d3) that reports phase that comes out of the right inlet of grooveduck. 

Hi, 
In ableton Max for Live Im trying to slow down grooveduck with ableton automation curve from a very high frequency to a very low freque

grooveduck-phase-reporting-with-midi

I am not using Ableton, but am pretty sure that

it introduces more latency and unpredictable results

than Max itself, when one interacts with time sensitive

At least I would not auto snapshot~ with 2 ms interval

but let note trigger it to get current phase position.

So snapshot~ with no argument, bang it to output.

I don't really understand what the goal of this is,

why don't You record audio from the grooveduck

I am not using Ableton, but am pretty sure that
it introduces more latency and unpredictable results
than Max itself, when one interacts with time sensitive
signal and non-signal objects.
At least I would not auto snapshot~ with 2 ms interval
but let note trigger it to get current phase position.
So snapshot~ with no argument, bang it to output.

I don't really understand what the goal of this is,
but if You want to measure the output,
why don't You record audio from the grooveduck
and look at it in the track ?


the goal is to make a song with snare-drum loops that speed up to frequencies where they become pitch and then slow down to regular speeds and phase lock with other elements of the song at specific moments. The first part was banal to accomplish, the second one is a major headache.

Can someone official maybe confirm that this is because of Ableton and this would work in pure Max with timepoints? I dont want to buy full licence and get a major dissapointment.

the goal is to make a song  with snare-drum loops that speed up to frequencies where they become pitch and then slow down to regular speeds and phase lock with other elements of the song at specific moments. The first part was banal to accomplish, the second one is a major headache.

grooveduck phase reporting with midi