Sjoerd W Bijleveld

I'm preparing my patch for presentation mode and try to make a nice layout. But each time I change the position of an object, which I have assigned to this mode (checked the 'Include in Presentation' box ), I need to uncheck and check again the box to pin it to the new postion, otherwise the object jumps back to the old position when activating the presentation mode. When experimenting with the layout and many changes of object positions involved, this is a real nuisance. Is there a way to avoid this behaviour?

I'm preparing my patch for presentation mode and try to make a nice layout. But each time I change the position of an object, which I have assigned to this mode (checked the 'Include in Presentation' box ), I need to uncheck and check again the box to pin it to the new postion, otherwise the object jumps back to the old position when activating the presentation mode. When experimenting with the layout and  many changes of object positions involved, this is a real nuisance. Is there a way to avoid this behaviour?

I'm preparing my patch for presentation mode and try to make a nice layout. But each time I change the position of an object, which I have a

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After some further investigation I found out that one can have a complete different layout in Patching mode and Presentation mode. The position of objects in either mode is controlled by the rectangles, which coördinates are displayed in the inspector. This obviously can be an advantage in certain circumstances, so please discard my comment!

Yes, Sjoerd. That's precisely why the feature exists. In the old days, it was often the case that Max folks would get their patches working and then move the bits around to "create the user interface" - usually at the top left of the patch. Unless you were really mindful of the patch triggering order, it's wasn't difficult to accidentally break something. Presentation mode allows you create your UI in a way that doesn't move any of the objects in your patch around at all. It's such a useful feature that it's easy to forget how things used to be. Thanks for reminding me.

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You're welcome!

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