this seems like it should be easy, but i don't see an answer anywhere. i need to increment and decrement sliders automatically rather than using a mouse click to control it. the objects i'm working on need to monitor their own audio signal level and decrement the level when the signal clips, and then gradually increment the signal level until it clips again. IncDec works to increment and decrement, but is only activated by a user's mouse clicks. how can i use a bang or a message to increment and decrement a value? thanks!