Like Metro, But With Better Timing?


    Nov 11 2006 | 2:00 am
    (There was an error on upload and it got posted twice. Sorry.)
    Hi,
    I'm looking for an object, or a way to build one, that acts just like metro but has better timing. I'm finding metro to be unreliable. I'm using it to trigger midi-on notes so the timing is important. I've seen clocks built using phasors~ and snapshots~ to build counters that go to 100, etc, but really all I need is an object that can output bangs every n-miliseconds. Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?
    Thanks!
    Ben

    • Nov 11 2006 | 2:30 am
      Hello,
      I don't think it's possible with the current Max scheduler (or maybe using a
      software vector size of 1 sample or such and "scheduler in audio interrupt" ? I
      haven't tried it)
      You should try phasor~ with edge~ (not snapshot~) or something like this (delta~
      is also useful maybe)
      But for triggering MIDI out notes, it looks like too much (?)
      ben :
      > I'm looking for an object, or a way to build one, that acts just like metro
      > but has better timing. I'm finding metro to be unreliable. I'm using it to
      > trigger midi-on notes so the timing is important. I've seen clocks built
      > using phasors~ and snapshots~ to build counters that go to 100, etc, but
      > really all I need is an object that can output bangs every n-miliseconds. Is
      > there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?
    • Nov 11 2006 | 3:22 am
      On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
      > Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to
      > build one?
      To paraphrase John Cage...
      Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you
      would have asked that question.
      Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very
      cool stuff.
      -----
      Nathan Wolek
      nw@nathanwolek.com
    • Nov 11 2006 | 4:22 am
      oh really?
      awesome. hahah.
      will it be a max external?
      thanks.
      b
    • Nov 11 2006 | 4:23 am
      i'll check out phasor~ and edge~.
      i'll see if i can make sense of it.
      thanks!!
      b
    • Nov 11 2006 | 4:37 am
      On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:22 PM, ben wrote:
      > will it be a max external?
      Collection of externals for Max/MSP or PD.
      -----
      Nathan Wolek
      nw@nathanwolek.com
    • Nov 11 2006 | 4:40 am
      Im curious, any chance you could summarize?
      v a d e //
      www.vade.info
      abstrakt.vade.info
      On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Nathan Wolek wrote:
      > On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
      >> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to
      >> build one?
      >
      > To paraphrase John Cage...
      > Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you
      > would have asked that question.
      >
      > Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very
      > cool stuff.
      >
      > -----
      > Nathan Wolek
      > nw@nathanwolek.com
      > http://www.nathanwolek.com
      >
    • Nov 11 2006 | 8:05 am
      Hi,
      this is the link to the thread...
      Here you can find the beta (OS X only) ...
      All the best
      Alessandro Fogar
      2006/11/11, vade :
      > Im curious, any chance you could summarize?
      >
      >
      >
      > v a d e //
      >
      > www.vade.info
      > abstrakt.vade.info
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Nathan Wolek wrote:
      >
      > On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
      > Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?
      >
      > To paraphrase John Cage...
      > Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you would
      > have asked that question.
      >
      > Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very cool
      > stuff.
      >
      > -----
      > Nathan Wolek
      > nw@nathanwolek.com
      > http://www.nathanwolek.com
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
    • Nov 11 2006 | 12:26 pm
      On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:40 PM, vade wrote:
      > Im curious, any chance you could summarize?
      the abstract...
      "A syetem of externals for Pd and Max/MSP is described that uses
      click triggers for sample-accurate timing. These externals
      interoperate and can also be used to control existing Pd and Max/MSP
      externals that are not sample-accurate through conversion from clicks
      to bangs."
      Basically the sample trigger is a click analogous to what [train~]
      outputs instead of a bang. It's pretty sweet.
      -----
      Nathan Wolek
      nw@nathanwolek.com