Listpackage


    May 11 2006 | 1:45 pm
    This is indeed a wonderful bit of work.
    I always roll my eyes when someone mentions a max feature they've found or
    noticed and someone else replies "Oh, that's been there since version x.x.x"
    I've used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the thick
    expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream. It wouldn't do me much
    good to hear now that Cleopatra knew about when Pete was a pup. At least it
    was in the vinegar section of my local Italian grocery.
    My point? The help folder for listpackage and a lot of other useful things
    that are new to me is deep in the cycling '74 folder. I try to be aware of
    what's available and one of the things I do regularly is skim the help
    folder. I always find something new or useful but I would have never run
    across listpackage. I'm a packrat but I am pretty sure I didn't download
    and install myself so it must have come with max. It isn't in the manual
    either. Can we agree as a standard that help files and folder belong in
    max-help?
    I've used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the thick
    expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream. It wouldn't do me much
    good to hear now that Cleopatra knew about when Pete was a pup. At least it
    was in the vinegar section of my local Italian grocery.
    Cheers,
    Gary Lee Nelson
    TIMARA Department
    Oberlin College
    www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

    • May 11 2006 | 3:43 pm
      On 11 May 2006, at 14:45, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
      >
      > I've used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the
      > thick
      > expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream.
      Try mixing some into creme fraiche and serving it with barbecued
      bananas. Hmmmmmmm.
      (Especially in the UK today, where it's stonking hot)
      >
      > My point? The help folder for listpackage and a lot of other
      > useful things
      > that are new to me is deep in the cycling '74 folder.
      etc. i second this - I only found this set of objects because one of
      them was in a patch that someone posted earlier this week. The help
      file briefly explains their functions, but nothing else (I suppose
      this info might be in the docs somewhere, but i couldn't find
      anything). Mind you, to be fair to the guys at C74, there's a _heck_
      of a lot of new stuff in Max, perhaps they just didn't get round to
      this yet? And I haven't read through the latest versions of the docs
      yet :-)
      >
      > I've used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the
      > thick
      > expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream.
      Hm. Repetition teaches, as antiorp used to say.
      I'm off to buy an ice cream...
      David
    • May 11 2006 | 4:51 pm
      Actually there is a lot about this in various java folders. Some nice
      tutorial info that finally jarred me into looking at writing mxj.
      I wasn't complaining about Cycling '74. I know what these guys are doing.
      Cheers,
      Gary Lee Nelson
      TIMARA Department
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
    • May 13 2006 | 11:52 am
      Sorry about the rep. I cut when I should have dragged. :-)
      This reminds me of some software I wrote in APL as a front end to csound.
      In addressing the issue of repetition in music, I made it more difficult to
      repeat things than to vary.
      Cheers,
      Gary Lee Nelson
      TIMARA Department
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
    • May 13 2006 | 12:14 pm
      I know the details of this belong in java-dev but just a note to general Max
      users. Lists are GREAT. I've used Peter Elsea's Lobjects for years and
      before that those of James McVartney that have been reincarnated as methods
      of the zl object. Vexpr is also very useful along with the ones from
      OpenDragon. My latest "discovery" is the mxj list package. They are a bit
      hidden in the Cycling '74 folder but they are well worth tracking down. The
      package includes help files for most of the objects. The java folder also
      includes a few other gems.
      Best of all is that the list package is in java so you can see the source.
      I was able to use that source to create a few more similar objects. I had
      been staying away from java because I didn't have time to get into Xcode or
      back into CodeWarrior. My unix chops are so long gone that opening the
      Terminal causes a memory freeze - mine. But mxj quickie works great!
      You'll have to learn java but it is no longer a monumental task to make your
      own simple externals.
      Cheers,
      Gary Lee Nelson
      TIMARA Department
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson