damon

I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu? I can pull up the Help tutorial though?...any suggestions?

I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu?  I can pull up the Help tutorial though?...any suggestions?

loading-external-in-object-library

> I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into

> my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help

> file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my

> patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu? I can pull up the Help

And imagine how your object library menu would look like if it would 

Its obvious you would need to explicitly tell Max to show it.

(Hint, there is a init folder in the c74 folder....)

Damon wrote:
> I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into
> my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help
> file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my
> patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu?  I can pull up the Help
> tutorial though?...any suggestions?

Yes, read the manual.
And imagine how your object library menu would look like if it would 
list every fu..ing external I use...
Its obvious you would need to explicitly tell Max to show it.
(Hint, there is a init folder in the c74 folder....)

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Quote: damon wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 19:59

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> I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu? I can pull up the Help tutorial though?...any suggestions?

That's the expected behaviour; the new object list does not update automatically. (Nice if it did...)

For instructions on editing it manually, check out page 65 of MaxGettingStarted.pdf

Quote: damon wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 19:59
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> I'm trying to insert Darwin Grosse's "ddg.mono" external object into my max/msp 4.5 external folder...I've done so...and I put the help file in the help folder..., but when I open the object library in my patch the "ddg.mono" is not in the menu?  I can pull up the Help tutorial though?...any suggestions?
>
> Thank You!
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That's the expected behaviour; the new object list does not update automatically.  (Nice if it did...)

For instructions on editing it manually, check out page 65 of MaxGettingStarted.pdf 

this is the second hostile post I've read from you...perhaps you shouldn't reply in forum if it frustrates you so...I read the manual quite a few times, but have never come across the info., but I am only HUMAN. You must be robot.

Too bad your behaviour may be discouraging to avid Max/MSP users...I was under the presumption that this forum was for questions whether they are addressed in the manuals or not? Either way...it is not becoming. I know that interacting/communicating through a medium like the Internet can downplay certain human values, but hostility is no way to be.

Stefan
this is the second hostile post I've read from you...perhaps you shouldn't reply in forum if it frustrates you so...I read the manual quite a few times, but have never come across the info., but I am only HUMAN.  You must be robot.

Too bad your behaviour may be discouraging to avid Max/MSP users...I was under the presumption that this forum was for questions whether they are addressed in the manuals or not?  Either way...it is not becoming.  I know that interacting/communicating through a medium like the Internet can downplay certain human values, but hostility is no way to be.

mzed,
Thanks for your patience and info.!

Don't get it bad. Can't talk for him, but I think he was more kidding 

than trying to be really hostile (at least, that's not how I 

understood it). As a lot of people on the list / forum, he is a 

I can understand that for some experienced users it may be 'boring' 

to answer to obvious questions. Of course, that's not a problem to 

ask for something addressed in the manual. But there are questions 

addressed in the manual and questions addressed in the manual... ;-) 

Note that I say that as a beginner. A lot of my questions are obvious 

ones as well for some other people. But the more I get into Max, and 

the more I see that I need to re-read the manual, so just take this 

as a friendly advice and it will be fine.

Don't get it bad. Can't talk for him, but I think he was more kidding  
than trying to be really hostile (at least, that's not how I  
understood it). As a lot of people on the list / forum, he is a  
really helpful guy.
I can understand that for some experienced users it may be 'boring'  
to answer to obvious questions. Of course, that's not a problem to  
ask for something addressed in the manual. But there are questions  
addressed in the manual and questions addressed in the manual... ;-)  
Note that I say that as a beginner. A lot of my questions are obvious  
ones as well for some other people. But the more I get into Max, and  
the more I see that I need to re-read the manual, so just take this  
as a friendly advice and it will be fine.

> Stefan this is the second hostile post I've read from you...perhaps

> you shouldn't reply in forum if it frustrates you so...I read the

> manual quite a few times, but have never come across the info., but I

Sorry this was not ment hostile at all, it was ment to encourage you to 

find some answers yourself. I would do this only if I have the feeling 

that it takes more time for you to wait for an answer from the list as 

you would need to find it out yourself. (And I even gave you a hint to 

I have a good reason to do so. I usually read all mails, and since the 

forum is up, its a lot more, and it takes a lot of time. I want to help 

anybody. But I'd rather not need to read too obvious answerable 

questions (and their answers). It will help you now and in the future if 

you are cautious with the recources. I also want that those who just 

read the list or the forum are aware, that its in everybodies own 

interest to use the available written resources first.

Especially this topic has been discussed also quite often on the list 

already, searching the forum isn't the worst either.

This list is my home, and I want to welcome you! Keep on maxing and if 

you don't find the answer in the docs or in the archives don't hesitate 

to ask. If you still get an answer like mine, don't mind, its sometimes 

hard to find things even if its in the docs, but then you know at least 

its not a basic problem you came across, and I can asure you its never 

Damon wrote:
> Stefan this is the second hostile post I've read from you...perhaps
> you shouldn't reply in forum if it frustrates you so...I read the
> manual quite a few times, but have never come across the info., but I
> am only HUMAN.  You must be robot.

Sorry this was not ment hostile at all, it was ment to encourage you to 
find some answers yourself. I would do this only if I have the feeling 
that it takes more time for you to wait for an answer from the list as 
you would need to find it out yourself. (And I even gave you a hint to 
find it faster)

I have a good reason to do so. I usually read all mails, and since the 
forum is up, its a lot more, and it takes a lot of time. I want to help 
anybody. But I'd rather not need to read too obvious answerable 
questions (and their answers). It will help you now and in the future if 
you are cautious with the recources. I also want that those who just 
read the list or the forum are aware, that its in everybodies own 
interest to use the available written resources first.
Especially this topic has been discussed also quite often on the list 
already, searching the forum isn't the worst either.

This list is my home, and I want to welcome you! Keep on maxing and if 
you don't find the answer in the docs or in the archives don't hesitate 
to ask. If you still get an answer like mine, don't mind, its sometimes 
hard to find things even if its in the docs, but then you know at least 
its not a basic problem you came across, and I can asure you its never 
ment hostile.

loading external in object library