Long Load Time


    Jul 10 2006 | 1:59 pm
    Hi
    Like the new forums.
    I have one niggling problem with my system which puts me off even using Pluggo sometimes. When I first load a Pluggo plugin it takes a long time (around 30 secs to a minute) for the plugin to load. Any plugins after that are a lot quicker. It seems like there are some libraries loading in the background or something as my disk continually churns over during the process.
    Does this sound familiar to anyone, is it system specific and can I fix it?
    Thanks for any help.
    Dave

    • Jul 10 2006 | 5:52 pm
      hi Dave,
      i know about this problem for sure, i think the first thing to do is keeping the pluggo file searchpath as minimal as possible.
      Still, the first will asways have a longer loadtime. The first time you load a plugin, all externs in the plug will be loaded to memory, afer this, the next instance you load, will load it's stuff directly from memory, not from disk.
      This will also be true, even if the second plug is a completely different one, since most of the pluggo lib is already loaded to memory.
      I think 30-60 seconds is very long though ! what's ur computer / os ?
    • Jul 10 2006 | 10:01 pm
      hoi. yes i know that too.
      but until now i thought it is an OS 9 exclusive problem,
      because i usually only expierience it when my RAM is
      heavily fragmented - which it is for example when i ran
      MAXMsp, dreamweaver, or a shooter game before i
      switch to cubase.
      well, and a reboot normally fixes this issue.
      are you on windows? then try if also occurs after
      rebooting your system.
      btw, what i also noticed that is almost never happens
      when a pluggo is already in the project file and opened
      with cubase VST, nuendo or protools (no idea about logic),
      usualy only when i load the first pluggo "manually".
      ... which gives a hint for a solution.
    • Jul 11 2006 | 9:54 am
      Thanks for the replies. I should have pointed out that my system spec is in my signature below.
      @Spleef, so you think moving the plugin files to the root of the drive may speed things up a little bit? I'll try this. I counted the load time this morning and it took 45 seconds - painful.
      @Thelenius, yes windows and it does occur even after a reboot and if the plugin is already used in a project. The quickest I have seen a plugin load is when I installed the 3.5.4 update and Nuendo rescanned all the Pluggo plugins. When I called up a plugin it came up in a flash. Rebooted then I had to wait another 45 seconds.
    • Jul 12 2006 | 9:48 am
      Quote: Dave P wrote on Tue, 11 July 2006 05:54
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      > Thanks for the replies. I should have pointed out that my system spec is in my signature below.
      >
      > @Spleef, so you think moving the plugin files to the root of the drive may speed things up a little bit? I'll try this. I counted the load time this morning and it took 45 seconds - painful.
      - No, the pluggo support folder,- i mean it should contain as few files as possible, so there wont be many files for pluggo to search thru ;)
      not sure at all, if it will help though, if you dunno what i'm talking about, it's likely that you only have the nessecary files in the searchpath...
      try Romans suggestion,- having a minimal & muted pluggo in the autoload for new projects might do the trick...
    • Jul 13 2006 | 12:48 am
      Hrm, somethings wrong if you're taking that long to load via pluggo. Usually pluggo takes 1-2 seconds to initialize on my computer for the first plugin on a fresh reboot. After that its almost instantaneous. I don't know what you're doing that could cause such a high load time, but it might be...
      1] poorly programmed plugins [are you using pluggo retail?]
      2] networked search path / excessive objects in search path
      3] something else...
      binez0r
    • Jul 13 2006 | 11:00 am
      I've tried everyone's suggestions.
      I only have the minimal installation pluggos, no extra ones. I did have some of my own that I have been tinkering with but I got rid of them with no improvement.
      I've also tried loading a project with one Pluggo in it at startup and get the same result. The version of Pluggo I'm using is the standard download one from the website.
      I actually think it's probably something to do with this crappy Vaio I have, it seems to have been a bit slow with Nuendo from the word go. I think I'm just going to have to live with it for now.
      Thanks again, Dave