longer lists for FFT's


    Apr 17 2006 | 9:29 am
    hi
    working from/on the "forbidden planet 2003" patch (which is in the exemples/fft-fun) i tried to hear what a finer subdivision would sound like
    changing the pfft~ argument from 1024 to 2048 (or higher) and the internal buffer~ and Uzi from 512 to 1024 (or higher) is easy and yes, in the low register there is a finer definition
    however changing the multislider from 253 bands (why 253 and not 256 ? I soon understood why..) to 512 does not work - or has no effect, since the "prepend set 0" (in the inside fft patch) only understands lists of no more than 255
    I tried zl join, the limit is still of 255 ; yes, I know _most_ max objects do not work with lists bigger than 255
    however, in this case, is there some way to work with more precision?? I _hope_ table can accept more points (it seems so, with "get info")
    _so, is there a way to pass this list of 512, or 1024 multislider's values, with "set 0" before??
    many thanks
    kasper -- Kasper T. Toeplitz noise, composition, bass, computer http://www.sleazeArt.com

    • Apr 17 2006 | 11:57 am
      hi, if you want to control individual fft bins, why not use [waveform] in draw mode to directly manipulate the "eqFun"-buffer data? easily scalable and offsetable with vzoom and voffset, no more troubles with packing/unpacking of large lists etc. also make sure to set "clipdraw 1" to limit the data to the desired range. volker.
    • Apr 17 2006 | 12:17 pm
      underscore's [_] maximum number of elements is 1024
      or use javascript...
      /*j
    • Apr 17 2006 | 12:40 pm
      >use [waveform] in draw mode to directly manipulate the "eqFun"-buffer data
      hummm _ never thought about it
      will give it a try
      thanks
      kasper
    • Apr 17 2006 | 12:43 pm
      >underscore's [_] maximum number of elements is 1024
      great!!
      > >or use javascript... > I was trying to avoid it - for the moment
      thanks
      kasper
    • Apr 17 2006 | 3:14 pm
      You can also replace all this old thing by listfunnel as it's limited to 1024 items (Thanks xoaz :-).
      Best, ej
    • Apr 18 2006 | 2:39 pm
      Kasper T Toeplitz wrote: >> or use javascript... >> > I was trying to avoid it - for the moment >
      or use the mxj list.* java externals, no need to get into java its done already for you. [mxj list.join] should do it (it doesn't have a help file, but it works exactly like [zl join] without the 256 elements limit.
      Stefan
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    • Apr 18 2006 | 3:46 pm
      "use java" seems to be the new rtfm of 2006, isn t it?
      maybe we can just use 2 multislider objects and send 2 lists if we have more than 255 fft frames, like we did it back in the days.
      :)
    • Apr 18 2006 | 4:18 pm
      >"use java" seems to be the new rtfm of 2006, isn t it?
      yeah... except than reading is faster than learning java.....
      >maybe we can just use 2 multislider objects >and send 2 lists if we have more than 255 fft >frames, like we did it back in the days. >
      and ffor appending those 2 lists??? well, yeah, use java !!
      best
      kasper
    • Apr 19 2006 | 6:19 am
      Kasper T Toeplitz wrote: >> "use java" seems to be the new rtfm of 2006, isn t it? > > yeah... except than reading is faster than learning java...
      but you don't need to learn it, its like any external, just type in the name...
      It took myself quite a while to realize that there is a lot coming with Max already. (I never read manuals, you guessed it... ;-)
      Stefan
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