Valery_Kondakoff

As far as I remember, M4L was introduced in 2011 (Max 6.1?). So it is developed for around 8 years now. This is quite long period, but it seems there were no major updates to M4L since 2011. I just have re-read the “What’s new” sections of Max 7 and Max 8 documentation: M4L isn’t even mentioned here.

In June 2017 Ableton announced its purchase of Cycling '74 and I was hoping to see the new start of the development of M4L, but there was nothing significant during these 1,5 years in M4L area.

So so the question is: can we expect tighter integration with Ableton Live in the somewhat near future? Any LOM updates? Something else?

What is the Cycling '74 vision of the M4L future?

As far as I remember, M4L was introduced in 2011 (Max 6.1?). So it is developed for around 8 years now. This is quite long period, but it seems there were no major updates to M4L since 2011. I just have re-read the “What’s new” sections of Max 7 and Max 8 documentation: M4L isn’t even mentioned here. 

In June 2017 Ableton announced  its purchase of Cycling '74 and I was hoping to see the new start of the development of M4L, but there was nothing significant during these 1,5 years in M4L area.  

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As far as I remember, M4L was introduced in 2011 (Max 6.1?). So it is developed for around 8 years now. This is quite long period, bu

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I’ve spent a lot of time with M4L. From the moment it was announced it has baffled me that they chose to put the max patches in the effects and instruments instead of into clips.

I gave up and I’m writing my own audio timeline editor in max for this purpose.

I’ve spent a lot of time with M4L.  From the moment it was announced it has baffled me that they chose to put the max patches in the effects and instruments instead of into clips.

I gave up and I’m writing my own audio timeline editor in max for this purpose.  

I'm still waiting for Live For Max, with like Live functionality inside Max, instead of the other way around ;)

M4L was introduced in 2009, a year after Max 5 was released. So we're about ten years on now.

I too have wondered for years now whether they might ever be able to essentially roll all of Max's code inside of Live completely so that it's no longer two applications. Could be an absolute nightmare, but Bitwig seem to have been able to do something similar, albeit much less extensive by the looks of it.

A fully integrated M4L as an extension of Live's codebase is the dream.

"I'm still waiting for Live For Max, with like Live functionality inside Max, instead of the other way around ;)" +1

https://cycling74.com/forums/mc-function-scrubbing-triggering-and-convenience

"I'm still waiting for Live For Max, with like Live functionality inside Max, instead of the other way around ;)"  +1

https://cycling74.com/forums/mc-function-scrubbing-triggering-and-convenience 

Live 9 added a bunch of API stuff and Live 10 added multichannel stuff, so they are improving it, however slowly.

I just examined the Live 9 and Live 10 release notes. There is nothing interesting about M4L in L9 release notes: https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-9/

The only interesting thing in L10 release notes (besides multichannel audio) is SysEx support: https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-10/.

I just examined the Live 9 and Live 10 release notes. There is nothing interesting about M4L in L9 release notes: https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-9/
The only interesting thing in L10 release notes (besides multichannel audio) is SysEx support: https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-10/. 

Performance (especially load time) was significantly improved in live 10... probably depends on size of device to notice this but I saw large improvements.

There is also the live.banks object, which may be moot unless you’ve got a Push.

Whether either of those cross your importance threshold is another matter.

Trigger warning: Tyler, None of that rises to round corners on message boxes.

Trigger warning:  Tyler, None of that rises to round corners on message boxes. 

M4L future? Can we expect deeper Ableton Live integration?