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    Jan 17 2007 | 7:04 pm
    Hello,
    I am on the max/msp mailing list and will be gone on a trip soon. I have been trying to login to the forum website, in order to have e-mails from the list witheld for a couple of weeks. However, on the website it says that my e-mail address was not found on the database. Is there a way for you to confirm that yes, this address is in the database (veometta@umich.edu) and to have a password re-set for it? I don't want to be off the mailing list, I just don't want e-mails for the next two weeks.
    Thanks, Angela Veomett

    • Jan 17 2007 | 7:28 pm
      veometta@umich.edu wrote:
      > I am on the max/msp mailing list and will be gone on a trip soon. I > have been trying to login to the forum website, in order to have e-mails > from the list witheld for a couple of weeks. However, on the website it > says that my e-mail address was not found on the database. Is there a > way for you to confirm that yes, this address is in the database > (veometta@umich.edu) and to have a password re-set for it? I don't want > to be off the mailing list, I just don't want e-mails for the next two > weeks.
      As far as our records are concerned, your email address, veometta@umich.edu, is found both in the forum database and the mailman database, so perhaps you're mistyping it.
      The easiest way to unsubscribe from the list (in my opinion) is to use the email commands. Just send an email to maxmsp-unsubscribe@cycling74.com and follow the instructions in the reply.
      Also, in the future, if you have mailing list questions, please send them to maxmsp-owner@cycling74.com.
      cheers
      w
    • Jan 18 2007 | 6:00 pm
      veometta@umich.edu wrote: > (veometta at umich.edu).... I don't want to be off the mailing list, > I just don't want e-mails for the next two weeks.
      That way you might get a lot of new spams even if its not from cycling, as the bots will find your adress on the openely available Forum pages... ;-)
      -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
    • Jan 18 2007 | 7:49 pm
      Stefan Tiedje wrote:
      > That way you might get a lot of new spams even if its not from cycling, > as the bots will find your adress on the openely available Forum > pages... ;-)
      Email addresses are only displayed where the user has their alias -- the way they choose to be identified -- set to their email address. Email addresses are not explicitly displayed. Approximately 13% of accounts have this issue.
      While this is an issue the user has control over, I've long considered running scripts on the table such that it would change their aliases, but modifying user accounts without permission is not something we're usually inclined to do.
      If a user has their account created in the forum by posting to the mailing list, the part after the @ sign is stripped off.
      It says clearly on the registration page that "If you want a nickname other than your login to be displayed in the forum, enter it here." Since the login is the email address, we assume most users would know to enter something here. Given that some don't, maybe we should spell it out for them a little more clearly.
      Therefore, to characterize the forum as "openly available" is inaccurate. The forum is not open in the manner you imply. Of course, if someone includes someone's email address in a post, like say when replying to a post or as part of their signature, then that email address will appear in the forums. Unfortunately, there's only so much we can do to strip email addresses that members enter in as part of their posts.
      Ironically enough, posts that go out to the mailing list are more likely to get your name on a spammer's list than simply having a forum account. This is because anyone can subscribe to a public list and harvest emails. We're working on a solution to obfuscate the addresses in the posts sent to the list from the forum, but I'm not aware of any mailman modification that would allow us to do the same for mailing list subscribers. Of course, one would assume that most folks that sign up to a public mailing list are aware of the risks of participating in a list as such.
      Long story short: the forum doesn't intentionally leak email addresses, although it's S.O.P. for the mailing list side of things, and it's a problem with no apparent all-encompassing solution but one that we're concerned with.
      Hope this clarifies things.
      w
    • Jan 19 2007 | 3:35 pm
      Wallace Winfrey wrote: > Therefore, to characterize the forum as "openly available" is > inaccurate.
      I was clearly reffering to the adrres he put into the mail body, I checked, it was not filtered, which nobody would expect by the way... The forum is setup correct
      > The forum is not open in the manner you imply. Of course, if someone > includes someone's email address in a post, like say when replying to > a post or as part of their signature, then that email address will > appear in the forums.
      Thats what I was pointing to in this case...
      > Unfortunately, there's only so much we can do to strip email > addresses that members enter in as part of their posts.
      please do not globally replace @ with " at "or something likle that, because it would break posted jitter patches... (One could test for @ embedded into words wich have a point after the @ though...)
      Stefan
      -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
    • Jan 19 2007 | 3:54 pm
      Stefan Tiedje wrote:
      >> Therefore, to characterize the forum as "openly available" is inaccurate. > > I was clearly reffering to the adrres he put into the mail body
      A re-read of your post does indeed lend itself to that interpretation, Stefan. My apologies.
      The larger points about spam harvesting still stand though :-)
      cheers
      w
    • Jan 19 2007 | 4:01 pm
      Is anyone receiving having duplicates of every post ?
      > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com >
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    • Jan 19 2007 | 4:14 pm
      Wow. If only I could be a bit clearer. Apologies. I am very very out of it this morning.
      Translation: Is anyone else receiving duplicates via email of the list?
      On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:01 AM, vade wrote:
      > Is anyone receiving having duplicates of every post ?
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    • Jan 19 2007 | 5:20 pm
      It happends a few times a day.
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      vade wrote: > Wow. If only I could be a bit clearer. Apologies. I am very very out > of it this morning. > > Translation: Is anyone else receiving duplicates via email of the list? > > On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:01 AM, vade wrote: > >> Is anyone receiving having duplicates of every post ? > > *v a d e //* > > *www.vade.info* > *abstrakt.vade.info* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >