marginal request


    Mar 25 2006 | 6:59 pm
    I have a tiny request.
    Right now, when using max, I feel that its discouraged to make
    patches which are larger than the screen (or window). right now the
    scroll bars end exactly where your last object is, it takes some
    effort to move an object beyond the edge of a window. and of
    course effort sucks.
    thats really it... um. some suggested solutions might be,
    a preference for margins beyond the last object in a window. (like
    300 pixels.)
    zoom key combos
    hand tool combos (java script able-ish)
    just a thought...
    -matt

    • Mar 25 2006 | 8:25 pm
      On 25-Mar-2006, at 19:59, matthew aidekman wrote:
      > some suggested solutions might be,
      > a preference for margins beyond the last object in a window. (like
      > 300 pixels.)
      > zoom key combos
      > hand tool combos (java script able-ish)
      Some standard behaviors from the 90s would be nice, too, like auto-
      scrolling when an object hits a window boundary (including extending
      the canvas size as necessary). This would probably be more flexible
      than having to change a preference for a fixed added margin.
      Similarly, a few weeks back there was talk of magnification ("zoom"
      in Windowsspeak).
      It's true that you can drop items outside the window margins, (Matt,
      have you tried dragging an object till the mouse is outside your
      window and then letting go of the mouse button? It's a cute effect.)
      But everyone else I know autoscrolls.
      Some aspects of Max' UI still look sort of System 6.0.5-like. I
      appreciate that increasing core functionality has been were most of
      the action is (MSP, scripting, Java & JScript, Jitter...), and I
      appreciate the UI enhancements that have seen the light of day.
      Still, it would be cool to have some of the features that we take for
      granted with other apps...
      -- P.
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    • Mar 25 2006 | 8:47 pm
      FWIW, the next major release of MaxMSP will feature a new graphics
      API with anitaliasing, and true alpha channel compositing for a more
      modern look/feel.
      -Joshua
    • Mar 25 2006 | 10:05 pm
      > (Matt, have you tried dragging an object till the mouse is outside
      > your window and then letting go of the mouse button? It's a cute
      > effect.)
      yes I have. I was describing more of a subconscious effect. like
      yes there's a method, but there's also a mental block.
      as for the sys6 UI, I've come to love it on the back end. and I
      understand the issue of cross platform backwards compatibility. but
      I think when I lock my patcher I should be able to get things like
      antialiased characters, shadows, embossing, panes etc...
      alpha blending will be a major step.
      BUT NOT AQUA... DOWN WITH AQUA.... SOMETHING ORIGINAL whew
      I LOVE YOU C74
      -matt
    • Mar 25 2006 | 10:08 pm
      > next major release of....
      Oh mighty members of c74 you have descended from the mountains and
      granted our wishes. We praise you for your inspiration, We thank you
      for hearing our prayers. amen.
      -matt
    • Mar 25 2006 | 10:19 pm
      On 25 Mar 2006, at 20:47, Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
      > the next major release of MaxMSP will feature a new graphics API
      > with anitaliasing
      ...and a spellchecker?
      nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://
      www.cassiel.com
    • Mar 25 2006 | 10:32 pm
      >> the next major release of MaxMSP will feature a new graphics API with
      >> anitaliasing
      >
      > ...and a spellchecker?
      and type-ahead object boxes?
    • Mar 25 2006 | 10:57 pm
      On Mar 25, 2006, at 2:32 PM, dlurk wrote:
      >>> the next major release of MaxMSP will feature a new graphics API
      >>> with anitaliasing
      >> ...and a spellchecker?
      >
      > and type-ahead object boxes?
      Feel free to let your imaginations run wild...you'll find out when
      it's released and not sooner.
      -Joshua
    • Mar 26 2006 | 11:11 am
      On 25 Mar 2006, at 22:57, Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
      >>>> the next major release of MaxMSP will feature a new graphics API
      >>>> with anitaliasing
      >>> ...and a spellchecker?
      >>
      >> and type-ahead object boxes?
      >
      > Feel free to let your imaginations run wild...
      Oh, I was joking, you see, you wrote "anitaliasing", and since that's
      a typo, which is a bit like a spelling mistake, I came up with this
      clever joke about spellchecking, and thought I'd share it.
      nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://
      www.cassiel.com
    • Mar 26 2006 | 12:44 pm
      On 26-Mar-2006, at 13:11, Nick Rothwell wrote:
      > Oh, I was joking, you see, you wrote "anitaliasing",
      Oh, and I thought we was talking about anitaliasing, which is sort of
      like backwards italics, only more Orthodox.
      Given that Joshua writes with Mail.app (according to his mail
      headers), he's probably turned spellchecking off.
      -- Roonil Wazlib
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    • Mar 26 2006 | 12:58 pm
      On 26 Mar 2006, at 13:44, Peter Castine wrote:
      > Oh, and I thought we was talking about anitaliasing, which is sort
      > of like backwards italics, only more Orthodox.
      I thought it was a form of mediaeval Italian song? ("anitalia-sing",
      geddit?)
      > -- Roonil Wazlib
      Isn't he a character in Harry Potter?
      -- N.
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    • Mar 26 2006 | 1:11 pm
      subpatches help
    • Mar 26 2006 | 2:15 pm
      On 26-Mar-2006, at 14:58, Nick Rothwell wrote:
      >> -- Roonil Wazlib
      >
      > Isn't he a character in Harry Potter?
      Sort of. You're close.
      I'll give you a hint: What was written on the inside cover of the
      copy of _Advanced Potions_ Harry showed to Prof. Snape?
      -- P.
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    • Mar 27 2006 | 2:21 am
      On Mar 26, 2006, at 6:11 AM, Nick Rothwell wrote:
      > I came up with this clever joke about spellchecking, and thought
      > I'd share it.
      I had a good laugh over it. So thanks, Nick.
      -----
      Nathan Wolek
      nw@nathanwolek.com
    • Mar 27 2006 | 7:29 am
      Nick Rothwell wrote:
      >
      > On 26 Mar 2006, at 13:44, Peter Castine wrote:
      >
      >> Oh, and I thought we was talking about anitaliasing, which is sort of
      >> like backwards italics, only more Orthodox.
      >
      > I thought it was a form of mediaeval Italian song? ("anitalia-sing",
      > geddit?)
      Oh, it wasn't about this beautiful half-blood portuguese-chinese
      pornstar : Anita Lia Sing ?!
      >
      >> -- Roonil Wazlib
      >
      > Isn't he a character in Harry Potter?
      >
      > -- N.
      >
      >
      > nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance --
      > http://www.cassiel.com
      >
      >
      >
      >
    • Mar 27 2006 | 9:08 am
      Nick Rothwell wrote:
      > Oh, I was joking, you see, you wrote "anitaliasing", and since that's a
      > typo, which is a bit like a spelling mistake, I came up with this
      > clever joke about spellchecking, and thought I'd share it.
      But one request definitely will follow out of my experience with typos:
      Please, please....!!!!
      If I have a connected patcher, and retype a different external name wich
      doesn't exist, it will cut all connections! and there is no working undo!!!
      Solution: if a typed in name doesn't match, put in a bogus object which
      at least retains all connections.
      Is that too much to ask?
      I guess everybody from Cycling will fall into that trap as well regularily.
      Stefan
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    • Mar 27 2006 | 9:48 am
      Secodned. (Damn! There go my connections) I mean
      'Seconded'.
      Having been through the miserable shit-storm that is
      ME/CFS over the last 3 years, and consequently having
      frequently been possessed with a bizarre kind of
      dyslexia/typographica, anything that could save us
      from this kind of thing would make me very happy,
      cheers
      Roger
    • Mar 27 2006 | 1:23 pm
      On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:48 AM, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:
      > Secodned. (Damn! There go my connections) I mean
      > 'Seconded'.
      > Having been through the miserable shit-storm that is
      > ME/CFS over the last 3 years, and consequently having
      > frequently been possessed with a bizarre kind of
      > dyslexia/typographica, anything that could save us
      > from this kind of thing would make me very happy,
      I'd prefer the box to turn red and leave the cursor in place so I can
      quickly correct the mistake without even reclicking.
      - John
    • Mar 27 2006 | 3:14 pm
      On 27 mars 06, at 15:23, John Nowak wrote:
      >> Secodned. (Damn! There go my connections) I mean
      >> 'Seconded'.
      >> Having been through the miserable shit-storm that is
      >> ME/CFS over the last 3 years, and consequently having
      >> frequently been possessed with a bizarre kind of
      >> dyslexia/typographica, anything that could save us
      >> from this kind of thing would make me very happy,
      >
      > I'd prefer the box to turn red and leave the cursor in place so I
      > can quickly correct the mistake without even reclicking.
      I hear David Z's question from here: why would you like to write a
      bad object name in a box? :-)
      ej