Max/MSP won't start with RME HDSP MADI


    Jul 26 2006 | 3:55 am
    Hi,
    I've just installed a RME HDSP MADI card into a PC which has just this
    morning had a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 (3Ghz P4 in an Asus
    P4C800-E motherboard, Radeon 9600XT graphics card). When I try to run
    Max/MSP, the splash screen gets as far as "initializing etable" and
    then it crashes, disappearing completely, with no error message
    whatsoever. The RME drivers are the most recent from the RME website.
    Google reveals no known issues with this set up.
    In a quick test, Plogue Bidule seemed to work perfectly with the card.
    Has anyone experienced anything similar with Max? Is there any useful
    log file I should look at?
    thanks,
    Aengus.
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    • Jul 27 2006 | 7:55 pm
      Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?
    • Jul 28 2006 | 1:18 am
      Neither quicktime nor quicktime alternative is installed.
      Might this make a difference?
      Thanks,
      Aengus.
      PS: I have some additional information, which only confirms that the
      problem is to do with the audio/dsp side of things: when I delete all
      of the ~ objects from the max-startup folder, then max starts ok, but
      crashes as soon as a ~ object is placed in a patcher. It seems that
      the reason the splash screen reads 'initializing etable' just before
      max crashes on startup, is that the ezdac~ object is the first ~
      object that max tries to load and it comes alphabetically straight
      after the etable object in the max-startup folder.
      On 7/28/06, binez0r wrote:
      >
      > Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?
      >
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    • Jul 28 2006 | 3:28 am
      yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.
    • Jul 28 2006 | 4:45 am
      I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
      before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
      the same as before.
      Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
      mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
      before...
      Thanks for your help.
      Aengus.
      On 7/28/06, binez0r wrote:
      >
      > yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.
      >
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    • Aug 03 2006 | 10:24 am
      Hi,
      Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case
      anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed
      all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them
      one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the
      Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the
      HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels
      of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.
      Best,
      Aengus.
      On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin wrote:
      > I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
      > before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
      > the same as before.
      >
      > Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
      > mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
      > before...
      >
      > Thanks for your help.
      >
      > Aengus.
      >
      > On 7/28/06, binez0r wrote:
      > >
      > > yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.
      > >
      >
      >
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    • Aug 03 2006 | 10:42 am
      Great news ! I was very anxious about that, for my next performance gear
      will be all MADI only...
      thanks
      f.e
      f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
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      Aengus Martin wrote:
      > Hi,
      >
      > Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case
      > anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed
      > all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them
      > one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the
      > Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the
      > HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels
      > of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Aengus.
      >
      >
      >
      > On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin wrote:
      >> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
      >> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
      >> the same as before.
      >>
      >> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
      >> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
      >> before...
      >>
      >> Thanks for your help.
      >>
      >> Aengus.
      >>
      >> On 7/28/06, binez0r wrote:
      >> >
      >> > yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I
      >> think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty
      >> clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then
      >> posting the results.
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >> --
      >> ____________________
      >> www.am-process.org
      >>
      >
      >
    • Oct 17 2012 | 11:01 am
      A BIG Thanks to Aengus! It works perfectly. Surprisingly this problem still exists anyway.
    • Feb 07 2017 | 5:51 pm
      Fast forward to 2107, still have to remove ad_mme.mxe64 from the Max drivers folder to be able to start Max with an RME HDSPe installed (in an external enclosure connected via thunderbolt). Max 731 64bit Win10.