Midi Feedback Loops with BCF2000


    Mar 16 2006 | 9:10 pm
    (or any other motorized control surface for that matter)
    Hi
    I gave up on this a while ago after much frustration, but with my slightly increased knowledge of Max I decided to give this another go, but can't seem to deal with it!
    What I want is a parameter that can be changed by the controller, and in return if that parameter is edited with the mouse, for it to return the data to the controller WITHOUT accepting the controller's immediate response to this. (i.e the feedback)
    I've tried with trigger (maybe I'm doing this wrong), and I've looked at some other patches but they only seem to recall banks of data.
    Thanks for any feedback (or not - crap pun i know!)

    • Mar 17 2006 | 8:28 am
      On 16 mars 06, at 22:10, Toby Scott wrote:
      > > (or any other motorized control surface for that matter) > > Hi > > I gave up on this a while ago after much frustration, but with my > slightly increased knowledge of Max I decided to give this another go, > but can't seem to deal with it! > > What I want is a parameter that can be changed by the controller, and > in return if that parameter is edited with the mouse, for it to return > the data to the controller WITHOUT accepting the controller's > immediate response to this. (i.e the feedback)
      Something like this?
      _____________________________ Patrick Delges
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    • Mar 17 2006 | 9:34 am
      Probably not, as this would mean, that you'd have to mouse-click or bang the slider if you wanted the changes you make on the external controller to have any effects on what you're doing...
      > Something like this? >
      >
      Titus Bellwald
    • Mar 17 2006 | 9:45 am
      Hi,
      With the BCF2000 (with last firmware) i have no feeback problem. So i do it without the [prepend set] and it works pretty well!!
      Philippe.
    • Mar 17 2006 | 9:47 am
      You have to break the feedback loop just for the UI part:
      If you want functionality also without the BFC attached, use the second version.
      Stefan
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    • Mar 17 2006 | 10:08 am
      On 17 mars 06, at 10:34, Titus Bellwald wrote:
      > Probably not, as this would mean, that you'd have to mouse-click or > bang the slider if you wanted the changes you make on the external > controller to have any effects on what you're doing...
      As the controller feeds back its input, you just need to connect the output of [ctlin 77] to whatever you want to control. The downside is that if you don't plug your MIDI device, you can't use the mouse to set the value anymore. But I just see Stefan already posted a solution for that :-)
      _____________________________ Patrick Delges
      Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://users.skynet.be/crfmw/max
    • Mar 17 2006 | 10:15 am
      Not necessarily - if you connect _both_ the output of the "ctlin" and the out put of the fader to whatever does the work, then changing either will have the same effect.
      L
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    • Mar 17 2006 | 1:55 pm
    • Mar 17 2006 | 6:08 pm
      Thank you all for your very helpful responses. I'll have a go and report back on how I get on
    • Mar 17 2006 | 6:59 pm
      How stupid I am! Was just trying some stuff out thanks to your replies, and stumbled across standalone mode 4 on the BCF2000 which outputs incoming midi data from the other midi output. Voila!
      Cheers for the help!
      Toby