msp controlled guitar


    Jun 13 2006 | 9:02 pm
    I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to control the instrument. it is similar to the piano project at ccrma...

    • Jun 13 2006 | 9:25 pm
      maybe a link to the project might help? Just a vague suggestion on my behalf.
    • Jun 13 2006 | 9:26 pm
      what are you thinking the EM pulses to the guitar are going to do? i
      do a lot of
      extended technique guitar work (multiple pickups, induction mics,
      etc) but unless
      you are rebuilding the guitar from the ground up, sending EM to the
      pickups won't
      do much. i have used EM to generate sounds with pickups though...
      cheers
      bruce
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    • Jun 13 2006 | 9:43 pm
      "EM to generate sounds with pickups though"
      Actually, that is very interesting, can you
      go into a little more detail as to how you
      are doing this.
      Thanks,
      Anthony
    • Jun 13 2006 | 10:05 pm
      very simple. take any EM producing device, like a small motor, cell or
      such, and move it around your pickups. i can get interesting drones
      holding my guitar near my laptop and moving it around. have fun.
      b
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    • Jun 13 2006 | 11:44 pm
      have you considered this:
      with maybe a max controlled servo to adjust the distance to the strings?
      Just a thought.
      Cheers,
      Brian
    • Jun 13 2006 | 11:57 pm
      Are you looking for the "backwards electric guitar", as the one Nicolas
      Collins made in the 80's?
      Sounds are sent _into_ guitar pickups whose fluctuating electromatgnetic
      fields vibrate the strings of the guitar!
      pc
    • Jun 14 2006 | 4:52 am
      molly wrote:
      > I'm trying to figure out how to rewire my guitar in order to send
      > electromagnetic pulses to the pickups (rather than from) in order to
      > control the instrument.
      Technically it would work like an ebow, but instead of human controlled
      it would be Max controlled.... You will have to build it yourself, as
      the distance which is necessary to make it sound would be very close,
      compared to the distance of the pickups. It will render your guitar
      usless for other playing techniques and It will be hard implement, as
      playing the ebow requires a good listening feedback and constant change
      of the distance. The reaction is slow, most players also touch the
      strings. The sound is usually a combination of the string sound and some
      induction into the normal pickups - nice distortions...
      What kind of sound and control are you after?
      > it is similar to the piano project at ccrma...
      You might think all the world knows about it, but I don't. CCRMA's site
      is big and I could not find the project. (Links are handy)
      Stefan
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    • Jun 14 2006 | 10:27 am
      dunno if they're still made though....
    • Jun 14 2006 | 2:14 pm
      On Jun 14, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Sukandar Kartadinata wrote:
      > http://www.sustainiac.com/stealth.htm
      >
      > dunno if they're still made though....
      i can personally vouch for the Fernandes Sustainer guitar system.
      i use one as my main instrument and it beats the ebow hands down.
      of course, there are many things you can do with an ebow that the
      sustainer can't do - like use it on other instruments (i love it on my
      acoustic hawaiian lap guitar) - so having both is a good idea.
      cheers
      bruce
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    • Jun 14 2006 | 11:27 pm
    • Jun 15 2006 | 7:59 am
      According to guitar hero and hippie legend Steve
      Hillage, vibrators make good induction devices for
      coaxing strange noises out of, er, guitars. I'm not
      sure how you would control one with Max, but there
      are probably websites that will tell you how ...
      cheers
      Roger
    • Jun 15 2006 | 8:14 am
      The most brilliant msp/guitar improv performances I've seen have been
      done by Hans Tammen: http://www.tammen.org/ .
      wes
    • Jun 15 2006 | 8:30 am
      google audi-oh ;)
    • Jun 15 2006 | 2:40 pm
      now THAT'S a scary thought.
      b
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