Need Help with Yamaha FS1R Sysex


    Mar 25 2012 | 3:30 pm
    Hi! So i make a maxforlive device for my FS1R. No problem with CC and NRPN stuff (have to read a lot but it works). I think i have read all Sysex post i found in the Forum . My problem is, if i put a sysex string [Filter Cutoff Freq]( F0 43 11 5E 33 00 18 00 7f F7)in the Programm Midi OX my FS1R response and shows an E (for edit Sound) on the front panel. So I put an (0xF0 0x43 0x11 0x5E 0x33 0x00 0x18 0x00 0x7f 0xF7) in Sxformat and get an (Sxformat 240 67 17 94 51 0 24 0 127 247). I put it in Midiout and Bang the Message. No response. The same with an live dial. I try an (sxformat 240 67 17 94 51 0 24 / is $2 / is $1 / 247) and many different variants no-response. In the Manual on Page 39 Performance Part Parameter says: F0 43 1n 5E 3p 00 ll vv vv F7 p=0..3 (Part1..3) [Filter Cutoff Freq] ll=18 vv=00 vv=7F
    So why i get an response on Midi OX but not in max ? What i am doing wrong ? in the manual on Page 37 is this info:
    Parameter Change 11110000 F0 Exclusive Status 01000011 43 YAMAHA ID 0001nnnn 1n Device Number 01011110 5E Model ID 0gggpppp gggpppp *Parameter Address High (H) 0mmmmmmm mmmmmmm *Parameter Address Middle (M) 0lllllll lllllll *Parameter Address Low (L) 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv Data Value MS 7bit 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv Data Value LS 7bit 11110111 F7 End of Exclusive
    I was truly grateful I hope there is another FS1R User or "SYSEX GURU" who can help me. Thank you in advance !! Sven Barmstedt/Germany

    • Mar 25 2012 | 3:38 pm
      $i1 Make sure to put the "i" to indicate integer. Also right/command click midiout and make sure it's routed to output to your synth. Hope this helps!
    • Mar 25 2012 | 3:57 pm
      THX for your quick answer Lume ! To be honest i don´t understand what you mean... Can you please edit it on my Max patch so that i can see what you mean ? This would be great if you can do it ! THX!!
    • Mar 25 2012 | 4:27 pm
      Okay, please try this. You may have to connect something a different way. EDIT: Fixed it up a bit.
    • Mar 25 2012 | 5:42 pm
      It dont work for me, but now with the textedit i can see what i am sending. this is great thank you ! what i see is when i put the Sxformat 240 67 17 94 51 0 24 0 127 247 and bang it, its the same as on MIDI OX and it still works there. You write:"Also right/command click midiout and make sure it's routed to output to your synth." Every ctlout CC Number i send works. Also the NRPN Stuff.So under Live, using max4live(Win7 64) take the right Midioutput what else can i do?
    • Mar 25 2012 | 5:54 pm
      Hey mate, I looked at it very closely and I think this will work! You only wanted to change 1 variable in the [sxformat].
    • Mar 25 2012 | 6:28 pm
      This is what i wanted, yes but it still not work.. :-( and i don´t know why... BUT I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU 1000 times that you still try to help me !! When i look again on the Parameter Change
      11110000 F0 Exclusive Status 01000011 43 YAMAHA ID 0001nnnn 1n Device Number 01011110 5E Model ID 0gggpppp gggpppp *Parameter Address High (H) 0mmmmmmm mmmmmmm *Parameter Address Middle (M) 0lllllll lllllll *Parameter Address Low (L) 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv Data Value MS 7bit 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv Data Value LS 7bit 11110111 F7 End of Exclusive
      i am cofused and think i am not on the right way, but why is this string working in MIDI OX ???
    • Mar 26 2012 | 5:15 am
      I have no idea. My help is limited because i don't run M4L.
      Pardon me if this is obvious, but did you try hooking it up to the midiout like this?:
    • Mar 26 2012 | 2:26 pm
      Yes, I done it that way. So i have a new idea. But it will take some time. If the experiment finished i will post the result. Again i have to thank you, and i am very happy that you toke the time to find out the cause. THX!
    • Mar 26 2012 | 2:37 pm
      sysex out is turned on in live, yes?
    • Mar 26 2012 | 5:15 pm
      @Roman Sorry,what do you mean with "sysex out is turned on in live, yes? " is it by default off ? cant find anything in live manual..
    • Apr 01 2012 | 4:27 pm
    • Apr 01 2012 | 7:04 pm
      can you use Leigh Hunts midiout replacement objects to go straight out to any MIDIport you want bypassing Live's restrictions with SYSEX - I think that's right - osx only - http://web.mac.com/leighhunt/iWeb/Site/downloads.html